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TheMercenary 10-30-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 498965)
Palin is a strong woman, and has strong convictions. I admire that. However, her morals are not mine, and I don't want them imposed on me. That does not make me evil.

As they say "Keep your laws off my body."

How could she do that as VP or President even?

Clodfobble 10-30-2008 12:04 PM

Appointments to the Supreme Court (as President, obviouly as VP she would only be more of a general influence on policy.)

Shawnee123 10-30-2008 12:25 PM

The quote was more of a general statement of the fact that I've experienced that a lot of people of "high moral fiber" think they should legislate so that others can benefit from the gloriousness of high moral fiber.

I think if she could wield such powers, she absolutely would, which is one of the reasons she's not for me. I'm a live and let live kind of person. For instance, I don't expect everyone to behave as I do: with class, dignity, and forgiveness. (I'm totally kidding there, yes.) :)

I wasn't implying that she could, though, just that she would if she could...live and let live is not the mantra I usually hear from the moral fiber-ites. ;)

TheMercenary 10-30-2008 12:41 PM

I understand. But I just got to listen, due to my laziness to get up and change the channel away from the news, first McCain (live in some northern border state) and Obama (live in Fl) spew forth more promises than I have heard in the last month. They both promised everything. All vets, workers in shelters, and peace corps workers will get a free college education. WTF? Where, how, who is paying for that? HE CAN"T DO IT!!!! only Congress can.

Palin can't make law, if she stays VP, which she most likely would, she would enter and leave the stage as nothing more than a lady in waiting. Given the current make up of the Senate, she would most likely never even vote on a tie breaker. NONE of these people can change or effect or even vote on a change to the Constitution. The worst thing that could happen is McCain (Small type: Palin) might get to make another appointment to the SC. So what? You think Congress is going to let them overturn Roe v. Wade? This is all gobbly goop from them and their handlers and detractors to the masses who do not know how government works. Do any of you believe that special interest groups and corps and big business is suddenly going to lose interest in Washington and the Congress and just go away overnight in either a Obama or McCain presidency? Hell no, the only things that will change are the names, the process will continue.

tw 10-30-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 499115)
Palin can't make law, if she stays VP, which she most likely would, she would enter and leave the stage as nothing more than a lady in waiting.

Oh. All that wire tapping, torture, international kidmapping, Saddam's WMDs, and even (rumored) orders to shoot down airliners during 11 September, and "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" ... VP Cheney did none of that. The VP has no power?

Catalyst 10-30-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 499084)
I thought it was a Wizard?

Actually, I believe that it was the flying spaghetti monster.

TheMercenary 10-30-2008 02:22 PM

It was the man behind the curtain.

classicman 10-30-2008 02:26 PM

oh - I thought he was from Oz - get it...Wizard of Oz.

TheMercenary 10-30-2008 02:31 PM

:) yes, that was the intent. :)

classicman 10-30-2008 02:51 PM

Whew - I just reread that. Hello??? I'm ok - I got it now.


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