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Trilby 09-19-2012 06:07 AM

Oooo! I like the 'lemon-green the vaporous morning drips'

It reminds me of Plath's line about the sea during rainstorm: "Where it pours bean-green over blue"

Lamplighter 09-20-2012 08:22 AM

Grav, you must have forgot again and left the frig door open.

Trilby 09-24-2012 06:25 AM

It's freezing.

We've given fall a miss and headed straight into winter.

Sundae 09-25-2012 02:32 PM

Parts of the UK are taking a battering at present.

80 flood warnings still in place, 300 homes flooded, hundreds more evacuated, road and rail links closed/ disrupted. Power cuts, school closures and even the closure of a blood-bank in Bristol.

We had squally showers here, but nothing much more than a lazy topic of conversation. Although it meant I go a lift home from the Doctors as it was squalling at the time :)

Lamplighter 10-07-2012 09:00 PM

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PDX has had a long string of beautiful sunny days, but some rain is predicted for the weekend.

But getting outside just before sunrise tomorrow morning will give
us yet another nice array of bright stars and two planets...

glatt 10-08-2012 11:26 AM

38 when I climbed out of my tent this morning. Brr.

Trilby 10-18-2012 07:09 AM

Blustery out this morning, Pooh.


Happy Thursday!

BigV 10-18-2012 10:14 AM

Still shirt sleeve weather here, but we did get some rain, enough to justify turning the wipers on. The first in about three months. Very, very, very dry summer here.

Trilby 10-18-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 834776)
Still shirt sleeve weather here, but we did get some rain, enough to justify turning the wipers on. The first in about three months. Very, very, very dry summer here.

Did the drought effect the Starbucks crop very much? :p:

BigV 10-18-2012 12:00 PM

...

I do sometimes drink Starbucks, but for the most part, I grind and brew my own coffee. And I'm a four-season coffee drinker. Sometimes I get an iced coffee when it's really hot. It wasn't especially hot this summer, just arid. Parched. Dessicated. Mummified. Dried. De-watered. Dusty. Water, Water, nary-where and barely a drop to drink.

Which explains the coffee. :coffee:

Trilby 10-18-2012 02:28 PM

The only thing I like at Starbucks is the salted caramel latte.

And this one kind of berry iced-tea...it's really good, too. but I'm not usually willing to pay five bucks for a cup of coffee. I only go there maybe three times a year.

ZenGum 10-24-2012 12:10 AM

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We're moving well into spring now, so in the Outback (Thargomindah, Qld in particular) the forecast is for hot dry weather, smoke haze, strong winds, with a chance of fire elementals in the 4 to 6 hit dice range.

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Okay technically that's a piddly little tornado (note the outdoor toilet or "dunny" on the right for scale) which is sucking up a pre-existing bushfire. I've seen things like this in bushfire footage fairly often. Without the fire we'd call it a willy-willy. With the fire, I don't know if it has a common name. Fire tornado? Firenado? Firespout? Fire devil? Firewilly? :lol:

glatt 10-24-2012 07:53 AM

willy willy, huh? We'd probably call that a dust devil.

Don't think we have a name for it when it's sucking on a fire.

infinite monkey 10-24-2012 07:59 AM

Fire fag?

BigV 10-24-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 835471)
We're moving well into spring now, so in the Outback (Thargomindah, Qld in particular) the forecast is for hot dry weather, smoke haze, strong winds, with a chance of fire elementals in the 4 to 6 hit dice range.

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Okay technically that's a piddly little tornado (note the outdoor toilet or "dunny" on the right for scale) which is sucking up a pre-existing bushfire. I've seen things like this in bushfire footage fairly often. Without the fire we'd call it a willy-willy. With the fire, I don't know if it has a common name. Fire tornado? Firenado? Firespout? Fire devil? Firewilly? :lol:

first of all, that is a great picture! very dramatic.


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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 835511)
willy willy, huh? We'd probably call that a dust devil.

Don't think we have a name for it when it's sucking on a fire.

"sucking on a fire"... I see atmospheric phenomena like this from time to time, (never on fire though) and I always think about where and how the flow is moving. this is how I see it and understand it.

When you take a bath, and you pull the plug from the drain, the water swirls and forms a cone, right? same thing's happening in a tornado or a hurricane or a firewilly. In the bath, there's a layer of heavy dense water above a layer of light less dense air. In their struggle to swap positions, the water swirls downward and leaves a tube through which the air may swirl upward.

That's exactly what we're seeing here. The hot air around the burning ground and brush is less dense than the cooler air layer above and it wants to rise as the cooler air wants to press downward. The easiest way to do this is to swirl and the fiery air can now flow up and away from the pressure of the layer above. Same thing in a tornado. Warm air near the ground, colder stormy air above, when they try to swap, they do so in a swirl, a tornado.

Most times, you can't see the funnel of air, unless there's something in it like dust or in this case, fire. Very cool picture!


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