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Lamplighter 11-19-2013 10:30 AM

Acquitted killer George Zimmerman
 
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This man deserves his own thread because we have not heard the last of him.

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In Florida, George Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with
felony aggravated assault, misdemeanor battery and misdemeanor criminal mischief.


CBS Miami
11/18/13

George Zimmerman Arrested For Aggravated Assault
Quote:

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The man acquitted in the shooting death
of unarmed Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin is in trouble with the law again.

George Zimmerman was arrested at approximately 1 p.m. Monday,
according to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office, whose deputies responded
to a disturbance call in Apopka in Central Florida.

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Nirvana 11-19-2013 10:36 AM

he is a prime example of "you can't fix stoopid"

Spexxvet 11-20-2013 08:58 AM

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glatt 11-20-2013 09:01 AM

The lesson here is that dead men tell no tales. He was successful when he killed his victim and was not successful when he let his victim live to speak against him.

Gravdigr 11-21-2013 10:57 AM

I say we let him fade away into obscurity. Why is this latest assault news? Only, ONLY because of the previous one.

sexobon 11-22-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 883937)
The lesson here is that dead men tell no tales. He was successful when he killed his victim and was not successful when he let his victim live to speak against him.

ORLY? Are you saying he's already been convicted on the recent charges? Last I read, he was still eligible for bond. IIRC, he was arrested for the previous incident and he was arrested for this latest incident. He didn't avoid being arrested again. How does that support your conclusion that there's a difference in his being "successful" based upon whether or not an alleged victim lived?

Gravdigr 11-22-2013 03:17 PM

Tell me you didn't take what Glatt said literally. Please.:facepalm:

sexobon 11-22-2013 03:41 PM

I am Literally Disappointed ...

glatt 11-22-2013 03:59 PM

You're just mad that a new thread was started instead of this going in the short fat Latino thread.
:p

sexobon 11-22-2013 04:36 PM

Between JBKlyde and Lamplighter, I'm getting used to it. : )))

Aliantha 11-22-2013 06:39 PM

If he's guilty of this crime (and it seems a lot less controversial), i hope he does some jail time in a cell full of lonely black men.

tw 11-22-2013 07:25 PM

George Zimmerman could share a cell with OJ Simpson.

Lola Bunny 11-22-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 884066)
I say we let him fade away into obscurity. Why is this latest assault news? Only, ONLY because of the previous one.

Ditto.

sexobon 11-22-2013 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 883830)
http://cellar.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=46052
... In Florida, George Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with
felony aggravated assault, misdemeanor battery and misdemeanor criminal mischief. ...

Should be obvious from his mug shot that he's no lady killer. :bolt:

tw 11-23-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 884162)
Should be obvious from his mug shot that he's no lady killer.

Some women love bad boys. Even Charles Manson is to marry his 25-year-old girlfriend.

Lamplighter 11-26-2013 10:11 AM

Is a puzzlement...

Orlando Sentinel
Jeff Weiner,
November 26, 2013

George Zimmerman drops public defender, asks for return of knife & phones
Quote:

Less than a week after he requested to be declared indigent, citing millions in debts,
George Zimmerman swapped his public defender in his domestic violence case for a private attorney,
his former lawyer confirmed.

Zimmerman was represented by the 18th Judicial Circuit Public Defender's Office
during a court appearance on Tuesday, the day after his domestic violence arrest.
He was granted $9,000 bail and bonded out that day.

However, Zimmerman has now elected to drop the Public Defender's Office
and hire a south Florida private criminal defense attorney, Jayne Weintraub,
to represent him, said his former public defender, Jeff Dowdy.
<snip>
It's unclear how Zimmerman will afford private representation.
In indigence paperwork last week, Zimmerman claimed to have $144,
and owe $2.5 million in debt.

Weintraub didn't return a call seeking comment.

BigV 11-26-2013 05:02 PM

well, we're talking about Weintraub now, aren't we? That's how she's getting paid. Notoriety.

sexobon 12-10-2013 12:23 AM

George Zimmerman's girlfriend recants
allegations he threatened her with gun


Samantha Scheibe, who refers to Zimmerman as her "boyfriend," said in a sworn statement obtained by NBC News that she felt intimidated when she was questioned by police about the Nov. 18 incident.

"I believe that the police misinterpreted me and that I may have misspoken about certain facts in my statement to the police. I do not feel that the arrest report accurately recounts what happened," she said.

"I am not afraid of George in any manner and I want to be with him," Scheibe stated.

:lol2:

tw 12-10-2013 12:32 AM

O J Simpson also needs a girlfriend.

sexobon 12-10-2013 12:49 AM

You got nuthin.

Aliantha 12-10-2013 01:28 AM

Most victims of domestic violence defend or deny the actions of their abuser.

sexobon 12-10-2013 10:29 PM

That's sheeple talk.

DanaC 12-11-2013 04:27 AM

No, that's just the way domestic violence works.

From the conclusion to a study on why women withdraw domestic abuse charges:

Quote:

In conclusion, this research has shown that victims of domestic violence often do not proceed with prosecuting their abuser because of fear. This can take the form of fear for themselves,fear for their families and fear from the perpetrator’s family and friends. In fact, the victims stated that fear colours their experience of the entire process from making their first statement to the police to appearing in open court.

This research has shown that on occasions, some perpetrators can threaten or assault the victim at any stage of the process with little or no consequence. Indeed all of the women interviewed for this study reported that their abuser often breached bail conditions that prohibited contact and threatened them right up to the moment that they appeared in court or dropped the charges. A final and
perhaps most worrying belief held by the victims was that regardless of sentence, their abuser would exact a violent revenge at some time in the future.
This belief was often based on personal experience of where even custody did little except delay the inevitable.

This research has demonstrated that in the rare occasions when a prosecution does take place, it is likely to occur when the abuse becomes so severe that the victim is in genuine fear for their own life (or the life of a family member). In cases such as these, it is possible that this will be the first time that the perpetrator has been formally tried, and is therefore highly unlikely to be given a sentence that is commensurate with the damage that has been caused
http://www.devon.gov.uk/domviolence_report.pdf


From a CPS report for essex:

Quote:

Recent analysis of failed domestic violence cases in Essex shows a very clear picture. Where the CPS can get a case to court, the overwhelming majority of defendants plead guilty, with only a small proportion electing for a trial. Where there are trials, most prosecutions succeed. But the critical problem is persuading victims not to withdraw from the process along the way either by retracting, refusing to give evidence or withdrawing support for the case.

On average it is said that victims of domestic abuse will experience around 35 incidents before reporting to the police. Many, having reported the situation then withdraw. The cases in the study above were those which went right through to an arrest and charge. There is another layer of victims who withdraw before the arrest and charge (a panicked 999 call is made by the victim, by the time the police arrive on the scene the victim, whether sporting signs of injury or not, then says it was a misunderstanding or something like that.

Not saying this is the case here. But offering her withdrawal as evidence against the assault taking place is shaky at best. Her responses fit very comfortably into a well-established pattern of behaviour for victims of domestic violence.

Recognising that doesn't make someone 'sheeple'. It just means they know the wider context.

You, on the other hand, seem to be doing a fine job of following the pro-zimmerman media 'bellweather' on this. Altogether now: baaaaaaa.

xoxoxoBruce 12-11-2013 10:53 AM

Dana, not only fear of reprisal, but fear of the future because the lifestyle/living conditions of the kids, and themselves, has been completely dependent on the perp.

Lamplighter 12-11-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Florida prosecutors said Wednesday that they would not file domestic violence charges
against George Zimmerman after his girlfriend told police he had pointed a shotgun at her three weeks ago.

The move comes two days after Zimmerman submitted an affidavit from Samantha Scheibe
stating she did not want "my boyfriend" charged with aggravated assault, battery and criminal mischief.
She said investigators had misinterpreted her statements about the incident Nov. 18
at a home in Apopka, Seminole County, that she shared with Zimmerman.

"I want to be with George," Scheibe, 27, said in the affidavit she signed Friday.
Till next time...

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sexobon 12-11-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 885645)
No, that's just the way domestic violence works. ...

What do you mean "No" when you’re your own quote backs my statement:

Quote:

In conclusion, this research has shown that victims of domestic violence often do not proceed with prosecuting their abuser because of fear. ...
What do you think sheeple talk is? It's for sheeple, by sheeple, to excuse other sheeple who have allowed their courses of action to be dictated by fear. The sheeple defense is unacceptable making even the recognition of a wider context sheeple talk. You then proceed to post the obvious apparently just to see yourself in print. Dipsheep.

That's was good, "dipsheep", I'll have to remember to use that again. : )))
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 885739)
Till next time....

Zimmerman is not an honorable person. He hasn't shown himself to be a cold blooded killer; but, he has demonstrated a lack of altruistic motives for his actions which will cause him to spiral downward. Already he can't see the light at the end of the tunnel because he's so far in debt from legal expenses. That alone can ruin any serious relationships he enters. He now presents a defeatist attitude heading towards reckless abandon. The more times he gets away with bad behavior, the bolder he'll become and the sooner he'll do himself in. Shouldn't be too much longer unless he wins the lottery or something.

DanaC 12-12-2013 01:13 AM

So, by your analysis, the victims of domestic abuse who do not press charges against their abusive partners are...sheeple.

You are a piece of work sexobon.

Lamplighter 12-12-2013 08:14 AM

...but, he has demonstrated a lack of altruistic motives for his actions...
...Shouldn't be too much longer unless he wins the lottery or something.


That is simplistic thinking... it has nothing to do with $
...and having "altruistic motives", or not, is a red herring

toranokaze 12-12-2013 11:13 PM

It seems that Zimmerman has learned that he can get away with just about anything, so he is running with it.

sexobon 12-13-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 885774)
... the victims of domestic abuse who do not press charges against their abusive partners are...sheeple. ...

Collaborator also works.

sexobon 12-13-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 885807)
... That is simplistic thinking... it has nothing to do with $ ...and having "altruistic motives", or not, is a red herring

Defendants' motives and the amount of money they have to spend on defense both factor into judicial outcomes.

Lamplighter 12-13-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 885950)
Defendants' motives and the amount of money they have to spend on defense both factor into judicial outcomes.

Judicial outcomes are not the most important issue compared
with who gets killed or wounded or intimidated by this man.

Till next time...

sexobon 12-13-2013 04:48 PM

Tell that to his girlfriend, the enabler, and to the sheeple who excuse her behavior. Preaching to the choir seems to be all you're good for these days old man.

Lamplighter 01-10-2015 08:21 AM

deja vu...

George Zimmerman arrested in Lake Mary.
Orlando Sentinel
Gal Tziperman Lotan
Jan 10, 2015

Quote:


George Zimmerman was arrested and charged with aggravated assault
in Lake Mary Friday night, a Seminole County Sheriff's spokeswoman said.

Zimmerman, 31, was booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility about 9:45 p.m. Friday
where he was being held without bond, sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Cannaday said in a statement.
Zimmerman is scheduled for a first appearance in court at about 9 a.m. Saturday.
More information about the arrest was not immediately available.
<snip>

footfootfoot 01-10-2015 10:06 AM

Too bad there's no "three strikes" law that would apply to him.

sexobon 01-10-2015 11:09 AM

His girlfriend alleges he threw a wine bottle at her several days ago while she was staying in his home.

Quote:

... bond was set at $5,000 ...

... Prosecutors questioned whether substance abuse treatment was needed, but the judge said that didn't seem to be a factor. ...

... Zimmerman ... appeared calm during the brief hearing. At one point, he laughed and joked with an officer as he signed paperwork. ...
When is this guy going to learn not to live with his groupies. You fuck groupies, you don't live with them. Has he learned nothing from Bill Cosby?

But if even one drop of good wine was spilled, they should throw the book at him.

infinite monkey 01-10-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 918639)

But if even one drop of good wine was spilled, they should throw the book at him.

Seriously. Not that Yellowtail crap. Why can't Yellowtail make a cork that is possible to get out without killing yourself? I even bought a pussy wine opener to use instead of my 'key' and I can barely open it. That's probably what happened: he got upset trying to open a bottle of freaking Yellowtail Shiraz.

Oh, what were we talking about?

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 918639)
His girlfriend alleges he threw a wine bottle at her several days ago while she was staying in his home.

Several days ago... at his house... did they arrest him on her say so... is this a he said/she said? :eyebrow:

Killer Zygote 01-10-2015 12:51 PM

You would assume that after having dodged a bullet over the circus that was the Trayvon Martin case, that he would want to lay low, stay under the radar. Appears all it did was make him feel as if he can do whatever he wants and not get into trouble.

Lamplighter 01-30-2015 07:38 PM

Maybe this thread should be re-named: "Teflon killer George Zimmerman"

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS - Sasha Goldstein - January 30, 2015
George Zimmerman won’t face charges in Florida assault case after woman recants

Quote:

The notorious 31-year-old will avoid prosecution after the victim alleged
Zimmerman threw a wine bottle at her and broke her cell phone during a Jan. 5 fight.
Authorities in Lake Mary, Florida, say there is no other evidence
but the woman's testimony and thus no charges can be pursued.
...

A cop on patrol in the Orlando suburb heard glass break and saw the woman
peel out of Zimmerman’s driveway just before midnight January 5 without her headlights on.
The woman’s car was filled with her belongings, and police said she “seemed very emotional and upset.”
“She advised that she had been in a verbal altercation over a painting,
with George Zimmerman and that Zimmerman threw a bottle of wine in her direction
when she attempted to leave,” the offense report reads.
“...Zimmerman threw the cell phone on the ground, breaking it.”
<snip>
Authorities said that in the weeks since, the victim has been uncooperative. When the woman
was scheduled to meet with the prosecutor’s office, she refused, authorities said.

The victim denied that Mr. Zimmerman threw a bottle at her and
stated that she was never in fear of the Defendant.
She also made it clear that she did not want to proceed
with the case,” the prosecutor said in a statement.
“A lack of eyewitnesses or other corroborating evidence to dispute
her version of the incident also contributed to the decision.”<snip>

sexobon 01-30-2015 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 920821)
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS - Sasha Goldstein - January 30, 2015
George Zimmerman won’t face charges in Florida assault case after woman decants


Quote:

... police said ... “She advised that she had been in a verbal altercation over a painting, with George Zimmerman and that Zimmerman threw a bottle of wine in her direction ...” ...

Well there you go. George was just tossing her a bottle of wine to be decanted. Some wines are better if allowed to breath before serving. Perhaps it was a Yellowtail Shiraz.

DanaC 01-31-2015 03:28 AM

Yep. Because domestic violence victims so rarely recant their accusations.

classicman 01-31-2015 09:28 AM

"in her direction "

Perspective matters. People can be vindictive. Maybe she is a victim of this asshat. Maybe she just wanted her 15 minutes of fame and whatever money she could get from it. Maybe shes as big an asshat as he.
Maybe ... ... ... Benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

infinite monkey 01-31-2015 09:43 AM

Note to women: do not, I repeat, do NOT date this man. What's true and isn't true is irrelevant at this point. He's bad news. There are other fish in the sea. You do not need a man that badly to risk what might or might not have occurred and what might or might not occur in the future. You cannot 'fix' him with the depths of your love. You kind of deserve what you get if, after all the hoopla, you still find the need to go out with him. Are you awestruck by his incredible good looks? Do you get pulled in by his obvious savoir faire? Is he just so charming that you can't say no?* Stop. Do not proceed. Turn around. Go back.

This has been a Public Service Announcement from Stop Being Stupid, a non-profit organization started and run by women who are damn tired of you morons making us look bad.

*obligatory sarcasm

classicman 01-31-2015 11:31 AM

excellent.

BigV 02-04-2015 09:44 AM

Stop Being Stupid... brilliant.

Lamplighter 02-04-2015 12:13 PM

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Here's another lady that needs to join the S.B.S. club...
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Police: Lance Armstrong hit parked cars, had girlfriend take the blame
The week.com 2/3/15
Quote:

How chivalrous! Aspen police say that former pro cyclist Lance Armstrong
hit two parked cars while driving his SUV, and let his girlfriend Anna Hansen take the fall.

On Dec. 28, Hansen told a homeowner that she hit the two cars parked in front of his house
with her vehicle, the Aspen Daily News reports. She gave him her contact information
but did not file a police report, and Hansen was cited for failing to report an accident
and exceeding safe speed for conditions.

Clodfobble 02-04-2015 01:30 PM

That makes sense to me, though. A famous person gets in a fender-bender, and people start getting all sorts of ideas about suing for extra injuries, making a press spectacle out of it, etc. It's a civil crime, and a tiny one at that, it's not like she was going to take jail time for him.

Also, failing to report an accident in itself is a crime? Like when the other driver and I just exchange insurance information and go along our way, that's not good enough?

glatt 02-04-2015 01:35 PM

If the damage is estimated to be above a certain amount, you are supposed to report it. And last I saw, that amount was so low, that most accidents exceed it by far. Something like $400.

YMMV

Lamplighter 02-04-2015 01:52 PM

Hmmmm..... the details are a bit more complex

Here is 1:

Quote:

Police were called to West Francis Street on Dec. 29 by a homeowner
who said he was the victim of a hit-and-run accident the night before,
according to a report by Aspen police detective Rick Magnuson.
and other paragraphs

infinite monkey 02-04-2015 07:47 PM

He's always been a beady-eyed fake. Referring to my last post in this thread, I wouldn't date Lance, either. ;) Come on! Show me the money so I don't have to work? Not that he would ever date me even if I wanted... :lol:

Though I do think there are opportunists, I think a lesser opportunistic action is to get upset about a hit and run than, say, cheating and lying and faking your entire life.

Clodfobble 02-04-2015 07:52 PM

Sure, if it turns out it really was a hit-and-run then that's different. And I wouldn't take the blame for Lance specifically, I'm only saying I'd take the hit for the person I love if HE were famous.

xoxoxoBruce 02-05-2015 12:41 AM

Yeah, it doesn't sound like they were trying to avoid responsibility, just headlines.

Lamplighter 02-05-2015 10:05 AM

But the real point is they were both lying.
We already know the character of Lance Armstrong.

But she was willing to take the blame for something she did not do.
That's what qualifies her for membership in the S.B.S club

xoxoxoBruce 02-05-2015 07:33 PM

If that's the point, so what? Nobody was harmed, nobody was cheated except maybe the tabloids. I can see why she would try to protect the family, her children, herself, knowing they would take financial responsibility to fix the damage.

I can readily believe she/they didn't know about the must report to police law. That's an unusual law, most police departments aren't interested unless somebody is hurt, they're blocking traffic, or there's damage to a donut shop.

Lamplighter 05-11-2015 02:55 PM

And one more time...

George Zimmerman involved in Florida shooting
Fox News - ‎25 minutes ago‎

Quote:

According to WESH, the shooting involved two men and Zimmerman suffered a minor gunshot wound and was taken to a local hospital.

"The injuries are not serious," Lake Mary Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said.

"I don't know exactly what precipitated it, but another motorist pulled up alongside him and fired a shot at him," Zimmerman's attorney Don West said. "I believe that the window of the vehicle was broken. As I understand it he was shot through the passenger window and the bullet narrowly missed his head and lodged the roof."

Morgan said the other man reportedly has been involved in other cases with Zimmerman in the past.

He added that Zimmerman will be brought to the police station when he leaves the hospital.

sexobon 05-16-2015 12:55 AM

Quote:

Florida man involved in latest altercation with George Zimmerman is arrested

... Matthew Apperson, 35, turned himself in Friday evening, police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.

Apperson was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and firing a deadly missile into an occupied conveyance.

"After conducting numerous interviews throughout the week, detectives determined that Mr. Apperson did intentionally fire his weapon into the vehicle occupied by George Zimmerman without provocation," Gillett said in a statement. ...

footfootfoot 05-16-2015 08:58 AM

Not to sound like a vigilante or anything but doesn't George Zimmerman, himself, constitute provocation?

sexobon 05-16-2015 10:50 AM

Every bit as much as Trayvon Martin did.

xoxoxoBruce 05-16-2015 10:53 AM

That was my thought.

Did you ever see an antagonist walking? Well, I did.
Did you ever see an antagonist talking? Well, I did.
Did you ever see an antagonist packing? Well, I did.
And the antagonist in my sites, was you.


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