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Lamplighter 03-09-2012 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 800695)
Lamp, you might be extrapolating a bit.

You're assuming that fewer bottles and cans will be returned under the new arrangement.
If the bottle return centers take all returnable bottles,
and not just specific types and sizes, it could actually increase the rate of returns.

Yes, you may be right...but here is some more extrapolation from this cynic.

At the next legislative session, we will see crowds of people parading at the Capital Building,
complaining about traffic around these centers and the riff raff that congregate there,
and smells and garbage that litter the area around these centers.

An the beverage industry will suddenly find that these centers do not make a profit,
and so staffing will deteriorate and eventually the lobbyists will convince the Legislature
that the public really does not want all this hassle and the law will be repealed.

Bah, humbug poo on the beverage industry... they've been fighting this law since 1970.

ZenGum 03-09-2012 05:52 PM

Ali, is that for deposits or scrap recycling value?

Here, all cans and bottles have 10 cent deposit, including aluminium, glass and plastic. Is that what you have, or is it mostly aluminium for the scrap value?

There are roads in Victoria and New South Wales that have a good thirty year accumulation of rubbish along them.

Aliantha 03-09-2012 05:55 PM

Nah, scrap recycling.

Maybe we're just tidier in Qld. ;) (although I do travel roads in northern NSW and they usually seem pretty good to me)

ZenGum 03-09-2012 05:58 PM

Maybe all the retirees up there haven't got the coordination to drive and lob litter out the window at the same time. :)

monster 03-09-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 800702)
I thought only South Australia had a deposit scheme like that. Oregon, I salute you!

Here, there are a few dozen recycling depots - the retail shops don't have to take the empties. The problem of people not bothering is solved by the presence of homeless people (yes, even in our hippy-fascist social utopia ;) ) who scratch together a trickle of income by collecting and returning empty bottles and cans.

Pretty much as soon as you cross the border into another state, the roadsides are littered with enough drink containers that it would be economically viable to collect them if only they had deposits.

Michigan is 10c per bottle or can. many states have a deposit scheme. Only a few are 10c, though. A great fundraiser for youth groups etc. And the homeless.....

monster 03-09-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 800594)
I wonder where she is...hasn't been around here in a few days or so?

Maybe her internet connection went down and she doesn't know how to fix it with her parents out of town. Did anyone speak to her on the phone recently?

infinite monkey 03-09-2012 08:32 PM

Dana said she can't get ahold of her...so I figured that was by phone.

Hmmmm.

DanaC 03-10-2012 02:38 AM

Her mobile just goes straght to message. I thought I had her landline as well, but it's the one from where she used to live before she went bac to Aylesbury.

ZenGum 03-10-2012 04:40 AM

Hmmmmmm indeed.

Sundae 03-10-2012 05:15 AM

Here I am!

Everything is falling down around my ears at home.
A power cut on Monday morning knocked out the modem. Before I've always just called TalkTalk and they've reset it. This time it didn't work. The support staff was amazed when I read out the serial number - it is no longer under warranty. Quel surprise, we got it in 2007. So I contacted Mum (for permission) and my bro (for advice) and they signed us up for another year and are sending us another "router". Which will arrive in 5-10 working days.

As well as that my phone battery died. Mum and I share a charger, after I managed to hoover mine up. Our shared charger is therefore in Lanzarote.

So I couldn't access Dana's mobile number from my mobile. I couldn't access anyone else's number from my Contact Details folder on the Cellar. And I couldn't let any other Dwellars know via email either!!! I have addresses saved in a Word document, but that's it.

I can't access from work as it is an educational environment. Hotmail, the Cellar, eBay etc are barred.

And now the boiler has packed up too.
So no heating and no hot water. Grrrr. It's more an inconvenience than a real problem, but it's the one I can't solve and the one that will stress the 'rents out most when they get home.

I'm at my bro's at the moment. Wonder of wonders he has an old charger I can use, so my phone is on charge as I type.
And I've requisitioned his PC for at least a couple hours.

Hello!

DanaC 03-10-2012 05:17 AM

Yey! You're ok :)

DanaC 03-10-2012 05:18 AM

Sounds like it would have been the worst possible time to come down after all :p


[eta] Once I'd got over the disappointment of realising I was too ill to come down anyway and making that decision, I started to pull out the positives. Not having to bugger about with Carrot's bedtime routine in the first month is no bad thing really.

Sundae 03-10-2012 05:55 AM

Like I said before, I didn't think you would want to leave Carrot.
And I mean that in a totally practical way.
You are establishing rules and routines, trust and a sense of family.

I felt bad enough when I got my boys on a Friday night and then left to go to work Saturday 09.00-17.00. But at least they had a chance to explore the flat together and I was home for the evening and night. Diz had a hard time adjusting, but he had Dylan to make him brave and to snuggle up with. And he was already a year old.

Really sorry to hear about your flare up.
That sounds horrible chick.
Please take good care of yourself.

BigV 03-12-2012 08:35 PM

The ability to rationalize: what separates us from the lower animals.

classicman 03-12-2012 11:10 PM

Got put off for a couple more weeks... again.
Fukkinfukk


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