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xoxoxoBruce 02-09-2019 08:17 PM

What If...
 
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What if we lost WW II, pre-war speculation from a Chicago paper.

sexobon 05-05-2019 04:14 PM

What if Trump won't leave in 2020?
 
The Democrats' scare tactics are really getting desperate. :lol:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi fears Trump will refuse to leave White House if he loses close 2020 election

slang 05-05-2019 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1031906)
The Democrats' scare tactics are really getting desperate. :lol:

Yes. "it's the beggining of the end", "the walls are closing in"

It's getting good. These guys aren't used to getting owned. :corn:

tw 05-06-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1031906)
The Democrats' scare tactics are really getting desperate.

First its the Daily News. A low key propaganda outfit that also hype fears of criminal hiding everywhere to kill us all.

Second, responsible moderates always consider all possibilities. When the Supreme Court ruled against Nixon, the chief justice demanded a 100% vote one way or another. For many reasons including this one. They had to consider that Nixon would send the Army to occupy the Supreme Court. Things under Nixon had become that unstable.

What the Supremes did not know, staff members in the White House were also just as concerned about Nixon's mental stability and had already taken actions, if necessary, to protect the US from Nixon.

Trump is not a stable man very much like Nixon.

slang 05-06-2019 03:17 PM

What will happen next? Are the walls closing in on Trump? Is this ( another ) begining of the end?

Will some recently declassed release from the DOJ put the "sha-zam" on something the dem liars say just moments after they say it? Like they do but legally because Trump declassed it. :corn:

Will Trump say "I'm not a crook"? Will Barr outwit the beast with another media narrative hijack?

Will Mueller re-testify that his report found no collusion? Will he testify as to WHEN he knew there was no collusion? Will he testify that he was going to continue the witch hunt until the 2020 election season if Barr had not spanked him and forced him to finish and submit the report?

Will Barr's gardener's tax returns be under subpoena? :corn: It's getting good.

sexobon 05-06-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1031940)
… Second, responsible moderates always consider all possibilities. When the Supreme Court ruled against Nixon, the chief justice demanded a 100% vote one way or another. For many reasons including this one. They had to consider that Nixon would send the Army to occupy the Supreme Court. ...

[BOLD MINE]

I disagree. Whacko moderates consider all possibilities. Responsible moderates consider all reasonable possibilities. Every member of the Army takes an oath to support and defend the Constitution and it was well established before Nixon that any orders received had to conform to regulations and the UCMJ both of which are rooted in the Constitution.

It was not reasonable to expect a military coup supporting Nixon over any other branch of government nor is it reasonable to expect a military coup in support of Trump. Other branches of government would have to be in clear violation of the Constitution for that to happen. Likewise for the Army to take action against a President.

tw 05-06-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1031963)
It was not reasonable to expect a military coup supporting Nixon over any other branch of government nor is it reasonable to expect a military coup in support of Trump.

It was always a possibility back then just like it is possible (but unlikely) that the scumbag Don would also refuse to leave office. We are not talking about honest men here.

With wackos such as the Don, we must always consider these otherwise unlikely scenarios.

Pelosi's comments are unlikely if the White House has people who work for America. But so many of them get fired because they represent America rather than the Don's ego and financial interests.

Wackos are extremists (not moderates) - ie nationalists, White Supremacists, Nazis, Klansmen, people who kill in the name of religion, etc. American patriots are moderates. Extremists are not. Extremists are easily manipulated by soundbyte distortions of words such as freedom, liberty, the flag, patriotism, military loyalty, extremist talk show hosts, fear of learning facts before having a conclusion, etc.

Extremists are most often American citizens who would bomb an Oklahoma City building, attack moderates in the streets of Charlotte, stockpile reams of assault weapons in the name of religious lies, need solutions in big guns, hype more military and more wars (ie Mission Accomplished that still remains), fear immigrants (the most productive people in any nation), attack a pizza parlor because Hilary was operating a pedophile ring in the basement, hate Canadians, hate European and all all other American allies, praise Kim of North Korea, fear vaccines because a blond bimbo actress said so, believe Putin, subvert fundamental scientific research, attack China because they are becoming productive, and therefore vote for Donald Trump.

That is clearly the definition of an uneducated extremist. And not an educated and informed (and therefore patriotic) moderate.

sexobon 05-07-2019 05:48 AM

Your definitions are categorically rejected. The Unabomber had a doctorate in mathematics. "Whacko" can cross all levels of education and the political spectrum. You yourself defy your own definitions and could never be officer material because of it.

tw 05-07-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1031984)
Your definitions are categorically rejected.

A wacko believes other wackos are good people. It is called perspective.

Was he wacko when he got his doctorate? Back then he was not living as a sane man - was not living in a one room cabin hidden in the woods and incapable of doing advanced math.

Sane people know him to be a wacko extremist - not a moderate.

sexobon 05-07-2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1031996)
A wacko believes other wackos are good people. ...

If that were true, then whacko left-wing extremists would think that whacko right-wing extremists are good and vice versa.

They don't.

Your statement is rejected.

The remainder of your post supports my contention that being whacko is not dependent on education level. No one but you introduced the notion that anyone would consider the Unabomber a moderate. Irrelevant discourse since he wasn't used as an example of that.

henry quirk 05-08-2019 08:43 AM

"A wacko believes other wackos are good people."
 
False: I (a wacko) think you (a wacko) are friggin' awful.

refuted, disputed, trashed, canned, bagged, and left for dead

tw 05-08-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1032009)
If that were true, then whacko left-wing extremists would think that whacko right-wing extremists are good and vice versa.

Again you are distorting / misrepresenting what wackos do. Wackos promote 'them verse us' distaste or hate. Hate is especially strong among the most extreme right wing. It works on the lesser educated who use emotions to somehow know.

Left and right wackos are little different to the patriots. For different reasons and using different conclusions (some because they want to and other because they do not understand the damage), they want to wreck shit.

Since you reject it, then it must be the truth. The Don said so. Even the internet is not as honest as the Don - your reasoning and henry quirk's.

henry quirk 05-08-2019 12:51 PM

tw: self-confirmed wacko
 
tw, you do this -- "promote 'them verse us' distaste or hate" -- with every post.

#

"they want to wreck shit"

Only Crom-fearing minarchists like me wanna do that, and we wanna do it to preserve the union (gotta cut the cancer out to save the life)

sexobon 05-08-2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1032030)
Again you are distorting / misrepresenting what wackos do. ..

I have not distorted / misrepresented what you do in any way. You just can't handle the truth.

tw 05-08-2019 04:55 PM

[quote=sexobon;1032067You just can't handle the truth.[/QUOTE]
Did you order a Code Red?


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