Is suicide more selfish than an expectation that someone in unbearable pain keep on living for whatever need they fill in us? To me, that expectation is far more selfish than suicide.

IMHO, suicide is killing. It's a killing of the self.
Of course we back away from those who kill - murderers!!! But people have and will kill in ways that society has sanctioned. The hangman, the soldier, the policeman.

The vast majority of people that kill take no pleasure in their acts.
Did WWI or WWII veterans come back just to be called serial killers?

So suicides should at least be granted the disparity of their own reasons.
Not all killing is violent. Not all suicide is revenge.
And sometimes it feels like a reasonable cessation.

That said, I still miss Brianna and need her more now than I did then. I still find it hard to believe I won't hear her voice again. Life moves on and we grieve and live and it feels like a betrayal.

Sorry. Probably the wrong thread for this.

No Sundae it had to be said.

It seems to me that divorce is like suicide from a marriage, but instead of being dead, you get to go and live your life more happily. I think that's selfish.

I suppose you could argue that breathing is selfish. I breathe without even thinking, but I do it only for self serving reasons.

I think divorce is more like the funeral after the death.

Richard Attenborough

90 is a ripe old age, though

I suspect you're viewing divorce from a personal point of view that doesn't encompass other situations. At least, I hope so.

when I told beest about Dickie, he told me Iyengar just died at an even riper old age. I totally missed that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/w...guru/14324985/

I thought "Iyengar?! Who the hell is Iyengar?"

But then I clicked the link.

I didn't know who he was, but, I knew his face. Somehow.

He's the guy that made it more difficult to please a sex partner.
Because of him, people could get into even more positions.
Downward Facing Dog, my ass!

:D

:lol2:

Bless your Upward-Facing Ass.

Iyengarna tell you

Veteran character actor Stephen Lee is dead at 58.

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This guy played in everything that was ever on television.

Bill Kerr, Australian actor and radio star, dies aged 92

He was ninety-one when he recorded the 'Shooting of Dan McGrew' without script or autocue. Post 238 (Scroll down)