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DanaC 08-24-2014 12:54 PM

The Doctor is in
 
And here we go again :) New body, new face, definitely a new accent...

But still the Doctor.

First ep was a mixed bag - as is often the case with first eps. Took me half the episode to really warm to Capaldi's Doctor, and some parts were very cheesy (but then - Who generally does have a large helping of cheddar) but there were some standout scenes, and I loved the second half.

Not sure about the little epilogue. Moffatt's sowing seeds again - let's see what they grow into :P

Some nice callbacks to earlier Doctors - and some plot points that seemed to have been forgotten during Smith's era have been picked back up again in an interesting way that suggests they were never really forgotten at all, but always intended to be picked up by his succesor.

All in all an interesting start to the new Doctor. I think he's going to be great.

Series trailer:



First ep trailer:





[eta] Really not sure about the new intro though.


Happy Monkey 08-24-2014 08:45 PM

The new intro is based on this fan-made video:



I think the fan-made one is a bit better.

DanaC 08-30-2014 10:28 AM

Yeah, I saw that. I do wish they'd kept the Gallifrey symbol from the fan version.

So anyway. We're a week into the new series and the Daily Mail is already on its third anti-Doctor Who story. We've had the obligatory 'BBC receives complaints about lesbian kiss story' and of course the annual 'Has Doctor Who become too scary for kids?' story. And now this:

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Doctor Who criticised for scene in which characters tear out their hair after complaints from sufferers of rare disorder
Yes indeed. So, a scene in which the Doctor pulls out a single hair from his head, and lets it fall to the floor to test air disturbance - and then pulls a hair from Clara's head, because her hair is longer - and lets it fall to the floor to test air disturbance...apparently has drawn complaints.

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Doctor Who has come under fire after a scene featuring stars Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman pulling out their hair sparked complaints from sufferers of a rare disorder.

The BBC sci-fi show has been branded it 'insensitive' following a scene which left sufferers of trichotillomania 'upset' and 'uncomfortable'.

-snip-

Quickly after the short scene finished, sufferers of trichotillomania and Dr Who fans took to social media to slam the BBC for showing the scene which could be seen as a trigger to some people.
-snip-

Popular video-blogger Rebecca Brown, 21, known as Beckie0, who has over 185,000 subscribers on YouTube and suffers from the condition quickly vented her anger online.

In a YouTube video titled 'Triggered By Doctor Who' which has had almost 14,000 views, she said: 'I sat down to watch Dr Who to enjoy myself, I didn’t expect it to include triggering content.

'I just wasn’t prepared, when I know something is coming I can turn off or close my eyes but it is pretty hard when you are suddenly met with it unexpectedly.'


Seriously? They weren't 'tearing out their hair'. And ...how careful are tv writers and execs supposed to be about accidentally including triggers for very rare OCD disorders. How about scenes of people washing their hands potentially triggering people whose OCD makes them compulsively clean their hands?

The BBC declined to comment :p


Nxt up on the Daily Mail: Doctor Who ratings fall!

Sundae 08-30-2014 11:20 AM

This is completely divergent, but you know I'm just jealous about not being able to watch the new Doctor.
My eyes have been rolling madly in my head over the Hate Mail's coverage of the recent "street-grooming" cases.
Those poor lasses who went through hell, would until about a year ago have been termed troubled teens, teenage harlots, a disgusting symptom of Broken Britain.
Now they are pure angels, white virgins, ignored victims.

Not to take anything away from the girls.
Only pointing out the hypocrisy. Gah.

Hate Mail will hate.

Gravdigr 08-30-2014 03:14 PM

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As good a place as another, I suppose:

Doctor Loo, the toilet of choice for Time Lords.

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DanaC 08-30-2014 03:24 PM

Hahahahaha! That is awesome.

DanaC 08-30-2014 03:35 PM

Just watched the secnd episode: Into the Dalek


Holy fucking awesome, Batman!

I am loving this new series. I always liked the hints at moral ambiguity with Smith and even Tennant - with Tennant we had the idea that whilst the Doctor never used guns he didn;t need to - he just used his companions as footsoldiers, and with Smith we had a degree of manipulativeness that reminded me strongly of the 7th Doctor back in the day. Both walked a line between the good man they were trying to be and the warrior who had killed billions in the Time War. Even so, it was always clear to us as viewers that they were basically good - and sometimes good people have to do bad things for the greater good.

It's been a recurring theme throughout the modern era of Who - but Capaldi seems to be the culmination of that theme - because he really doesn't know if he is a good man or not. And for possibly the first time in the modern era at least, we're really not entirely sure either.

We saw the beginning of his wrestling with that question in the opening episode, but for the second ep it is front and centre. We also saw the conflict between a man who dislikes and cannot feel comfortable around soldiers, and yet is effectively one himself.

Lovely intro to Clara's new potential boyfriend too, Danny Pink. A former soldier turned school teacher. I'm really liking him.

Gravdigr 08-30-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 908604)
Hahahahaha! That is awesome.

No, that is a toilet, a shit receptacle.

DanaC 08-30-2014 03:41 PM

Fuck off, it's a tardis. And therefore, by definition Awesome.




:p

sexobon 08-30-2014 04:06 PM

You're both right:

Toilet And Relative Distinction In Shithouse

DanaC 08-30-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 908616)
You're both right:

Toilet And Relative Distinction In Shithouse

Hahahahaahaha. Genius.

fargon 08-30-2014 09:09 PM

The Tardis loo is way beyond cool, it is kewl.

Gravdigr 08-31-2014 04:57 PM

I still like 'Poolice Box' better

Gravdigr 09-01-2014 04:20 PM

Or Turdis.

DanaC 09-01-2014 04:28 PM

Turdis. That's excellent.

monster 09-15-2014 10:46 PM

Is the doctor's cleaning service called The Sweeping Angels?

Beest 10-31-2015 06:59 PM

Just finished this series , dissapointed, Capaldi was great, but the storylines were poor :yelsick:

Zathris 10-31-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 944054)
...but the storylines were poor :yelsick:

I disagree. The Girl Who Died and The Woman Who Lived were excellent IMO. Lookin' forward to another Zygon invasion in about an hour. The last 2 happened in 1975 & 2013.

monster 10-31-2015 10:01 PM

which one of those was the lesbian lizards in Victorian London one?

Beest 10-31-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zathris (Post 944057)
I disagree. The Girl Who Died and The Woman Who Lived were excellent IMO. Lookin' forward to another Zygon invasion in about an hour. The last 2 happened in 1975 & 2013.

Im only on Season 8, just released on Netflix, I didn't like Clara, looks like she's gone in season 9.

Zathris 11-01-2015 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 944064)
Im only on Season 8, just released on Netflix, I didn't like Clara, looks like she's gone in season 9.

A true Whovian, such as myself, refers to "series 8" as season 34 [26 seasons of the original series (1963-1989) + 8 seasons of the revived series (2005-?)].

Also, Jenna Coleman is leaving at the end of season 35, but, except for the 2 episodes I mentioned above, she's been in every episode since the beginning of season 35, including last night's episode, The Zygon Invasion.

Zathris 11-01-2015 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 944062)
which one of those was the lesbian lizards in Victorian London one?

Huh? Are you referring to the Silurians?

Oh wait, do you mean the season 32 episode A Good Man Goes To War?

DanaC 11-01-2015 02:34 AM

I had mixed feelings abot Capaldi's first season. I liked him - and I liked some of the themes they explored...some of the episodes were good. Some of the earlier episodes in particular were really strong. But the overall arc of the series left me cold. And the weaker episodes were really, really weak. That one with the first in London started well but evaporated into such incoherent nonsense. The Robin Hood one was also fairly weak, though at least quite funny in places. I lost patience with the golden arrow shot at the space ship.

With previous Moffatt series I've found that, despite some shaky episodes, the series arcs were strong and the whole was more than the sum of its parts. With the first Capaldi series, to me, despite some good episodes, the whole was less than the sum of its parts.

I ended last series thinking I might not even watch the next. That finale did for me. The first part was excellent and really set things up well, but the second part was almost the death of Who for me. Waaaay overboard on the sentimentality in a way that didn't feel earned. And Missy, so intriguing at first, just descended rapidly into pantomime villain.

I'm finding the current series stronger - am liking Capaldi more (he's really settled into a groove and is reminding me a lot of Tom Baker) and am liking Clara more, as well as their relationship. Also, the current season is all two-parters, which gives it more of the feel of the old serialised stories.

Beest, have you seen that season's Christmas special yet? It went a long way to rescuing it for me.

monster 11-01-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zathris (Post 944080)
A true Wanker, such as myself, refers to "series 8" as season 34 [26 seasons of the original series (1963-1989) + 8 seasons of the revived series (2005-?)]..


DanaC 11-01-2015 11:46 AM

I watched Doctor Who, on and off, from around the age of 3 to its cancellation in the late 80s when I was 16 or 17. I watched the McGann tv movie in the 90s and ended up becoming a full-on whovian (wanker) from around that time - read the books, listened to the audio plays and was well and truly steeped by the time nu-Who came around.

The current series is series 9, as far as I am concerned.

Beest 11-01-2015 12:29 PM

I always think I started with Troughton, but that was before I was born, and I rememeber Pertwee clearly, and I was only 3, when he left, repeats I guess.

I don't consider myself a Whovian, it's just a TV show I like, and I've been watching since childhood.

I echo many of your thoughts on Season 8 Dana, I think my hopes were up for a return to a more detached arrogant Doctor like Pertwee or Tom Baker, but got more mush instead :(

Some hope for season 9 anyway.

(9, 34 whatever, I like to seperate, nu who from old as it's hardly the same show)

Also, I get increasingly annoyed about the Sonic Screwdriver being a magic multitool that can fix almost anything, very weak writing IMHO.

Zathris 11-02-2015 07:38 PM

@monster: I'd rather be a wanker than a hobknocker. Ya know, if I were British. :p:

DanaC 11-03-2015 04:16 AM

Wtf is a hobknocker?

fargon 11-03-2015 07:10 AM

Hob Knocker
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=hob-knocker

Sundae 11-03-2015 07:11 AM

Maybe he means knob-hocker. A man who tries to pawn his penis.
Or porn his penis.
It's a well known phenomenon.

DanaC 11-03-2015 07:29 AM

Ahhh - apparently it comes from an american show (ICarly and Friends) as a made-up britishism. That explains why I've never heard it :P

fargon 11-03-2015 07:35 AM

I have never heard of iCarly and Friends.

Zathris 11-03-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 944301)
Wtf is a hobknocker?

I thought that wuz a real insuli in Britain, and not just a word made up for the character Wade Collins on iCarly.

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 944310)
Maybe he means knob-hocker. A man who tries to pawn his penis.
Or porn his penis.
It's a well known phenomenon.

Whutever floats yer boat, sweetie.

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 944316)
I have never heard of iCarly and Friends.

Actually, it's just iCarly.

monster 11-03-2015 06:53 PM

Clearly you people know nothing about Britain or British slang. I was fortunate enough to have been there at the conception of this term -I'd just finished afternoon tea with Lilibet and was waiting for my corgi-bag when I saw Phileeep going to town on one of the palace sheep. Suddenly a blue phonebox appeared right in the Victoria Memorial fountains and the woolie bounded out of the gates and swam to safety inside. "Bloody doctor always swanning in and spoiling things" exclaimed Phil, at which a head popped out and yelled "You always were a Who-knocker" just as the box swirled and whooshed off into the distance. A QuornEater guarding the gate overheard the exclamation (although the sonic-screwdriver boom happened right in the middle). Henceforth, the term Who-B!-knockers has been used to refer to those of welsh persuasion. Because the Brits speak so quickly and have a propensity to swallow entire syllables, it has gotten a little squished up back into three syllables over time

monster 11-03-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 944313)
Ahhh - apparently it comes from an american show (ICarly and Friends) as a made-up britishism. That explains why I've never heard it :P

wait, is that about preteen girls?

Zathris 11-03-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 944348)
Clearly you people know nothing about Britain or British slang.

O rly? Well then, you can just bloody well bugger off ya sodding wanker! #BAZINGA

Zathris 11-03-2015 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 944349)
wait, is that about preteen girls?

Click my link above.

DanaC 11-04-2015 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zathris (Post 944365)
O rly? Well then, you can just bloody well bugger off ya sodding wanker!

Better.

Sundae 11-11-2015 09:39 AM

O M G!
I knew the lovely Mark Gatiss had written another Dr Who episode, but have just found out that Reece Shearsmith also appears in it.

Given that Jeremy Dyson does not act, we'll now have had the full hat-trick of The League of Gentlemen in the show.

And for those who moan that the programme is a luvvies club - yah boo to you, with knobs on.

Happy Monkey 04-23-2016 05:01 PM

New companion revealed. Looks like she may be from the '80s.

sexobon 04-24-2016 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 958278)
... Looks like she may be from the '80s.

Dude111 will like her.

DanaC 04-29-2017 06:57 PM

Oh man, I am loving the current series of Doctor Who.

I struggled with Capaldi's first season - mainly because of the story telling. There were some excellent individual episodes, but the meta story, which started out really well, just didn't pay-off for me. It didn't have the coherence of some of the better series, and seemed like it couldn't figure out quite what it was after the Matt Smith era

second season I started out dubious, but eventually liked.

Am now totally on board with Capaldi's Dpctor and his storylines - just in time to say goodbye :P

The new companion has allowed his Doctor to fully step out of 11th's shadow, and has returned him to his status as mysterious other, now that we are not seeing him through the eyes of a companion who knows him better than he knows himself.

Also, Bill is an excellent companion.

Happy Monkey 04-30-2017 12:24 PM

Agreed on all counts.

DanaC 05-22-2017 05:51 PM

A really good Doctor Who discussion and Q&A panel:


sexobon 07-16-2017 11:10 AM

Today is a fixed point in time ...


sexobon 07-16-2017 12:45 PM

Alllllriiiiiight!


Happy Monkey 07-16-2017 12:51 PM

Very cool. On the one hand, I wish I'd watched Broadchurch, because I understand that it (and she) is very good, and I'd probably get some extra excitement from that.

On the other, it's also very cool for the actor to just be the Doctor in your mind. I'm sure this is harder for people in the UK, but I think the Doctor was the first role I saw any of the actors in, except Capaldi (his guest spot in Who itself, of course, and his amazing role in Prime Suspect).

I can't wait!

DanaC 07-16-2017 01:33 PM

With the caveat that I am in no way ready to say goodbye to Capaldi's Doctor, I am not gutted by the choice of the 13th.

Gravdigr 07-17-2017 11:55 AM

The new Dr looks...different.

I'll take two and call ya in the morning.;)

:jig:

sexobon 07-17-2017 05:09 PM

The Doctor doesn't need you, she's got her sonic screwdriver.

Happy Monkey 07-17-2017 11:32 PM

We are approaching the end of the window of time where this riddle works:

A father and son have a car accident and are both badly hurt. They are both taken to separate hospitals. When the boy is taken in for an operation, the surgeon (doctor) says 'I can not do the surgery because this is my son'. How is this possible?

xoxoxoBruce 07-18-2017 12:04 AM

Why would the riddle stop working?

Gravdigr 07-18-2017 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 992496)
The Doctor doesn't need you, she's got her sonic screwdriver.

I'm more worried about what I need these days. And I need me one o' them there purty doctors.

Happy Monkey 07-22-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 992505)
Why would the riddle stop working?

When the answer is obvious. It's only a riddle as long as the idea of a female doctor is unintuitive.

xoxoxoBruce 07-22-2017 11:32 PM

Only for Who geeks, not the real world. http://cellar.org/2012/nono.gif


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