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xoxoxoBruce 03-21-2008 12:41 AM

March 21, 2008: Holy Cow
 
Actually it's not Holy Cow, it's Holey Cow.
Well technically it's fistulated cows.
Cows that have had a fistula (porthole) surgically installed, so researchers, and lurkers, can see the digestion process in one of the cows 4 stomachs.
No, it doesn't hurt them and in reality, in exchange for this indignity, they lead long and pampered lives.
http://cellar.org/2008/fistulatedcows.jpg
Having witnessed this several times during my misspent youth, I can personally attest, it smells much worse inside the cow than it does when it comes out the back end. :whofart:

zachol 03-21-2008 03:55 AM

...cow tipping, then?

Griff 03-21-2008 05:33 AM

So how much better trained is a veterinary than a people doc?

Michigan State (among others maybe) had a cow with a glass bubble for a belly.

DucksNuts 03-21-2008 05:52 AM

Ohhh, pierced bloated cow is the worse smell ever. It stays in your nostril for days.

Whodathunk grass could smell that bad.

sweetwater 03-21-2008 07:42 AM

i would be easy for these cows to diet. it must be easier if they can, literally, watch what they eat.

for me, the smell would be sufficient.

richlevy 03-21-2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachol (Post 440536)
...cow tipping, then?

But nothing more than %15...cheap bastards.

Sundae 03-21-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 440540)
Whodathunk grass could smell that bad.

Anyone who forgot to remove the flowers from their desk over a long weekend in a heated office. [retch]

val5150 03-22-2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 440537)
So how much better trained is a veterinary than a people doc?

Michigan State (among others maybe) had a cow with a glass bubble for a belly.

Being a DVM is just as, if not more complicated then being an MD since you have to absolutely KNOW all aspects of total health. Unlike most human medical professions where you can specialize in one particular area.

wolf 03-22-2008 11:56 AM

One of our docs thinks vets are much better trained that MDs, at least as diagnosticians ... for the most part, a vet's patient can't tell him where it hurts or described symptoms.

xoxoxoBruce 03-22-2008 11:57 AM

Around here, a lot of DVMs limit their practice to certain types of critters, usually ones kept as household pets. If you have an exotic or large animal, they refer you to another vet, or a University animal hospital.

But you're right, val5150, in that the animals they do treat, they have to know everything about them. Everything about a dog is a lot different than everything about a turtle or parakeet. That's a lot of learning!

Kasszia 03-23-2008 06:07 PM

Did anyone watch the video? The hole leaks. Yuck. What about flies getting in there? Does the 'porthole' have a lid?

xoxoxoBruce 03-23-2008 07:20 PM

:D Yes, they have lids, removed for pictures.

Oh, and welcome to the Cellar, Kasszia.

monster 03-24-2008 07:48 AM

Looks like a washing machine. Can't wait for the spin cycle....

Kasszia 03-24-2008 05:07 PM

Thanks!
 
Thank you Bruce. I've been lurking for better part of a month now.

xoxoxoBruce 03-25-2008 12:45 AM

Only the first post feels perverted, smooth sailing from here on. :D

monster 03-26-2008 08:03 AM

First we had the goatse now we have a cowsee.

Griff 03-26-2008 07:23 PM

ixnayontehgoatse

monster 03-26-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 441830)
ixnayontehgoatse


I compromised -no linkie :D (and no photoshop of the ruminant.....)

bullwinkle 03-30-2008 06:21 PM

all my brain's telling me right now is "beef stew beef stew beef stew"

dkb218 03-31-2008 03:08 PM

That doesn't hurt? Yeah, ok.

Iggy 04-03-2008 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 440520)
No, it doesn't hurt them and in reality, in exchange for this indignity, they lead long and pampered lives.


Doesn't hurt the cows? I don't think they can really say that... after all, the cow can't tell them one way or the other. It looks extremely cruel to me. Poor cows. And they don't look very pampered to me... :(

xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2008 09:13 AM

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Unpampered cow.

toranokaze 04-03-2008 09:42 AM

Both look tasty

Clodfobble 04-03-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy
after all, the cow can't tell them one way or the other.

I've seen lots of animals express quite loudly and violently that they are in pain. This is why they have to confine them very tightly for other procedures, like artificial insemination.

BigV 04-03-2008 05:07 PM

...if it hurts, you're not doing it right...

xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 443591)
I've seen lots of animals express quite loudly and violently that they are in pain. This is why they have to confine them very tightly for other procedures, like artificial insemination.

When I had my cows inseminated, I just held them by the halter and got drooled on, while the guy with a rubber glove up to his shoulder, did his thing.
Yeah, they made cow eyes at me too.


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