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Spexxvet 08-18-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
You assert that there is a need, but you want "somebody else" to meet that need...because there "has to be a solution", and then when somebody doesn't do it for you they're all evil, greedy, heartless gluttons. Honest, it's not the government's job to meet every need.
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And your solution seems to be "I'm too greedy to help them, I say let them rot!".

MaggieL 08-18-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
And your solution seems to be "I'm too greedy to help them, I say let them rot!".

It's not my job to meet every need either, and that doesn't make me "greedy". Since you think this is so important, come up with a solution that isn't fueled by confiscating things that belong to other people, or throwing a tantrum and calling them names when their priorites don't align with yours.

MaggieL 08-18-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
The real inroads into the educational system by the socialists really started stacking up a couple years later than that, but Spexx is within the demographic ...

Ya think? My younger brother was born in '58, but he doesn't seem to have this problem. Not that every generation doesn't have it's "under 30 socialists", but geez...Spexxvet was 30 allegedly 15 years ago.

MaggieL 08-18-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
You are right, Maggie. I did get sidetracked, responding to your heartless assertions.

Sorry, I forgot that your behavior is my fault. Look what I made you do! It's not fair!

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
"...provide for the common defense..."

By taking my hard earned money? I don't think so...:p

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Ya think? My younger brother was born in '58, but he doesn't seem to have this problem. Not that every generation doesn't have it's "under 30 socialists", but geez...Spexxvet was 30 allegedly 15 years ago.

17, but who needs math skills anymore?

Maybe it's not generational. Maybe it's the difference between compassionate people and those who aren't.

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
You are right, Maggie. I did get sidetracked, responding to your heartless assertions.
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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Sorry, I forgot that your behavior is my fault. Look what I made you do! It's not fair!

Which words blame you? Are you a professional word-twister, or is it just your way of trying to win an argument when your facts and rationale don't cut it?

MaggieL 08-18-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
Which words blame you?

You blamed "getting sidetracked" on my "heartless assertions". As for whose arguments are holding up better, all I hear is unsupported assertions, wishful thinking, socialist cant, circular logic and namecalling/ad hominems.

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 01:25 PM

Maggie, you continue to say "my money". If people behaved the way I think they should, raising the standard of living for low wage workers would not take any of "your" money - unless of course you happen to be a filthy rich wealth glutton.

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
You blamed "getting sidetracked" on my "heartless assertions". As for whose arguments are holding up better, all I hear is unsupported assertions, wishful thinking, socialist cant, circular logic and namecalling/ad hominems.

So stop typing them.;)

No, I chose to respond to your assertions - you didn't make me do anything, just as I declared and inferred nothing different. Hope that clears things up for you. Do you always interpret statements this erroneously?

MaggieL 08-18-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
17, but who needs math skills anymore?

Maybe it's not generational. Maybe it's the difference between compassionate people and those who aren't.

OK, you were two years *past* thirty 15 years ago. More's the pity. And you'll get credit for being "compassionate" when you stop wanting to do it with other people's money.

MaggieL 08-18-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
So stop typing them.;)

The "Pee-Wee Herman" school of argumentation.

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
OK, you were two years *past* thirty 15 years ago. More's the pity. And you'll get credit for being "compassionate" when you stop wanting to do it with other people's money.

Yeah, it's really incompassionate to encourage someone to drive a Caddy instead of a Mercedes, so his/her employees can upgrade from a 10 year old ford to a 5 year old Dodge. :mad:

9th Engineer 08-18-2006 01:31 PM

Using words like 'heartless' in your accusations mean nothing and are appeals to wayward emotionalism, not logic. Wouldn't it be far more useful to provide education on how to avoid being stuck in a $10/hr job and just let people decide for themselves where they want to sit in society? Aid for certain classifications of injury is workable, but with stipulations about moving to a new type of work that the injury doesn't inhibit. As a last resort the only thing that I could see working would be a sort of large dormitory style housing project complete with integrated/mandetory schools for the children. I can rationalize myself donating a roof, running water, and a bed, but not anything more. A tiered system along these lines would catch the people with the ambition and will to improve their situation, the rest can freeze according to their own choice.

Spexxvet 08-18-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
The "Pee-Wee Herman" school of argumentation.

I know you are, but what am I? :p


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