Was he doing "what he should have done" in this case:
The more I think about shit like this, the more I worry about extremist vigilantes like Roger Barnett not being willing or able to distinguish between protecting their property rights as opposed to taking the law into their own hands in a violent and illegal manner.

Roger Barnett is an asshole who belongs in jail.

Well, maybe this will be one step further in showing the government how fed up we are about illegal immigrants.

I don't understand why the government is so unwilling to deal with this problem.

...nvm, yes I do. It's because corporate America wants cheap labor, and corporate America gets what they want.

No, Morales was not on this guy's private property. Ranch owner was wrong in that case, but not in this one.

I see a slippery slope among some of the vigilantes, including Barnett...perhaps you dont.

This is worth re-posting:

What Onyxcougar said.

Also what Redux said.

:D

I see it like this: the man has good reason to be suspicious of groups of strangers on his property due to the location of his property, past problems with trespassers, and the current violent instability across Mexico. I don't see anything wrong with what he did on his property as long as he wasn't physically abusive (beating, etc.) and immediately notified the authorities as to the situation and promptly turned the people over as they were found (all possessions, no harm done as said before, etc.). However, this is most certainly a slippery slope as evidenced by his misbehavior in this other event with a perfectly legal group of people and their actions. That article is so slanted you couldn't stand on it, but the fact remains he acted inappropriately in that situation on BLM land and should be punished for it. The man needs to learn the legal limits of dealing with these people and put that into practice. If he keeps up this overly aggressive behavior he's going to kill somebody who doesn't deserve it, and then the major shit-storm will kick up.

Hell, with all the violence happening along the border because of Mexican drug cartels, and that violence slipping over the border in some cases into America, I wouldn't really have a problem with a landowner shooting someone illegally on their property, if they posed a threat. Or in containing someone at gunpoint.

If they enter his property he should be able to detain them with whatever means are necessary until the authorities arrive. Trying to round up people not on his property is absolutely idiotic.

And criminal. This asshole should be in jail.

I cant argue with that...but I did like the part where 11 yr "Vanese had the deer in her crosshairs...!

He was tried for that crime and it is behind him. The current issue is whether or not he can be sued by illegals for detaining them and turning them over to authorities on his private property.

Chances are this guy is not someone I'd like very much, but that is irrelevant.

I agree with both of those statements.

It sounds from the quoted text like he was not tried for that crime. He was sued in civil court by the victims and lost. I think he should have been prosecuted in criminal court. But what do I know? I didn't Google him or anything. Just reading what's posted here.

fair enough glatt. I had assumed that if an actual crime was committed those people would have filed charges against him and the legal process would move on it. I'm too lazy to google the guy because it doesn't really change my opinion. asshole or not, previously should have been convicted or not, he is only being sued over this one incident on his property.

I read in one of the articles that he is leasing the Gov't land where this incident happened. Still doesn't make it right though. I would defend his right to do what is necessary to defend his property, but it seems he is going way overboard.

I'd personally support him if he chose to sit on his property and shoot anyone who enters the property illegally. I might be a little extreme in that though.

Seems reasonable to me.

reasonable? i don't know, but i'm fairly certain word would get out and his ranch would not be the preferred place of passage anymore.

And if his neighbors would do the same...

The unmitigated gall of these people offends me. If you think this guy's an asshole stay off his property and mind your own business.

Interesting. Well, I don't know what rights a leasor of gov't lands has, but if he lost a civil suit over the incident, they apparently don't include pointing a loaded gun at someone in front of their kids and threatening to kill them.

This one is nothing jinx. It has only been a couple years since someone tried suing arizona because there weren't water stations set up in the desert and the illegals were dying from heat exhaustion.

On the drive from Phoenix to Rocky Point, Mexico it is not uncommon to see a mexican pop up out of the bushes waving an empty water jug in the air. The border patrol checkpoints are at known locations so the illegals go around them and then come back to the roads.

I never said they did. Reread my post please.

What do kids have to do with it. If you break into my house with your kids you are no less likely to be killed. These illegal aliens are breaking the law everyday and people are just turning their heads. It is bull shit.