The point about saying "affect change" is that it is an improper use of the word, although I was nice enough to give a possible interpretation. But the English language gets badly messed up on a regular basis, and she is hardly the only one who forgot what she may (or may not) have learned in the 8th grade. Maybe she took the day off to shoot something when they discussed that.

effect:

–verb (used with object)
10.to produce as an effect; bring about; accomplish; make happen: The new machines finally effected the transition to computerized accounting last spring.

affect:

–verb (used with object)
1.to act on; produce an effect or change in: Cold weather affected the crops.
2.to impress the mind or move the feelings of: The music affected him deeply.
3.(of pain, disease, etc.) to attack or lay hold of.

So to affect change is to act on change in some way, not bring it about. Unless you want 2 or 3.

It is just a matter of literacy.

With her accent, I couldn't tell whether she was saying "affect" or "effect".

http://www.nojobsurvivor.com/njs/ima...augh_cigar.jpg

I thought Tobacco Penis was already the unofficial spokesman for the GOP. Or is his show back to the "entertainment only" label again?

[conspiracytheory]The 'Pub Party wanted her to do everything she's done since she was first introduced as VP candidate. She lends credence to a long-held belief in the old boys club that women are too flighty to be politicians. They looked around and saw a bunch of strong, capable women up and coming into (gasp) high-level positions. Women whose agendas might differ from their old school views and who, if given a chance, could make a great dent in the antiquated cigar and brandy politics they've enjoyed since the days of yore. So, they pimped out a Sarah Palin. Sarah, because she is an old-fashioned down-home little girl, figured the guys knew best and complied. Her initial dive into politics was, surely, motivated by the need for attention and nice nails. McCain? He took one for the team.[/conspiracytheory]

Not according to her record in AK. She never had the rep of being ms. little prissy. At least according to what I have read.

That's why they chose her: she initially projected a strong person. Also, she loves "conservative family values" so she would act as psycho and flighty as she needed to in order to preserve the integrity of the party. Otherwise, it wouldn't have worked. That should have been inherent in my post, if one is reading for points.

Eh... I think that whole family values thing is an overblown point. I hear it all the time. I think most people don't give it that much importance. The times you hear it most brought up is when some other Republickin steps on their dick in some metaphorical sense. Eh... whateva.

[conspiracytheory]WHAT PART OF THESE TAGS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?[\conspiracytheory]

Oh, and bullshit. If they don't give it any importance they shouldn't always be hanging their damn hats on it, should they? All part of the show. I'll be in the lobby getting popcorn, let me know when someone decent comes on the screen. kthxbai

That's my point. More people hang that hat for them than they do themselves. Like I said I could care less about what they say or do. The Demoncrats are no better IMHO.

Oh, and bullshit.


That's all the bitch talks about.

Yea, that is her. I am talking about the Republicking party as a whole, or people who consider themselves conservative. Those that are "Family Values" or Religious Right are not the majority but more like a vocal Minority.

Why are people so afraid of Palin and what she says she stands for? She is never going to be elected to the White House.

Because they think she may actually get their party's nomination, and they'll never win the general election.

Because this batshit crazy bitch was on a ticket that got 46% of the vote! That doesn't freak you out?

I agree she can't be voted in. I even doubt a party nomination.

Not really. It was a non-vote for Obama as much as the Bush was a non-vote for Al Gore.

So what happened last time?

As much as a vote for Obama was a vote for "anything but Bush" ... this logic is slippery and reversible. The fact is: she got very close.

And scariest of all, it's repeatable.

I personally love the whole "strong family values" angle.........because her family is so "normal."

She never even got even close. Are you kidding me. Obama won by a landslide. She was dead in the water a month after she entered the race.

That fact people say 54% is a landslide disturbs me, it shows how polarized we've become.

Saying "Family values", without defining them, is bullshit. Remember, the family down the street you so disapprove of, that are raising their kids all wrong, and let their dogs shit everywhere, have family values... they just don't match yours.

Are you kidding? Republicans RUN on "family values." It is their raison d'etre. Dems do not run on that. But if a dem is caught with his pants down, reps insist he resign. More reps have been caught in compromising positions though over the past few years than dems. Funny how none of THEM have resigned though.

Any politician who talks "family values" while trying to deny a whole segment of people equal rights scares me, and has no business in politics. Religion and politics just should not mix, ever. Politicians shouldn't even talk about their religion, because it shouldn't be an issue.

I couldn't agree more.

It explains why Colin Powel is a flaming liberal.

I still don't see why everyone is afraid of Palin. She was not running against Obama, she was running for vice president. I think everyone protests too much.

Don't remember the constantly repeated "just a heartbeat away" line during the campaigns?

The woman is an idiot with no business in any elected office higher than dogcatcher. People were afraid of having someone so dangerously inept inherit the position of POTUS.

Never, ever, ever, ever underestimate the stupidity of bible-thumpers, rednecks, hillbillies, and assholes who vote for people like Bush or Palin.

People are scared of Palin because they saw that a stupid fucking idiot can get into office and fuck up the country for 8 years with George W. Bush. If that moron can get in, even a glassy-eyed, religious, half-retarded, wing-nut like Palin can get in.

Re: Palin being "a heartbeat away" ... especially considering McCain's age. If he had been 20 years younger I don't think the concern would have been as deep. McCain should have gotten the nod instead of Dubya.

:lol2:

Don't hold back, Radar, tell us how you really feel!

I feel very secure knowing that Joe Biden is just a heartbeat away. I'm sure he's much more qualified than someone who actually accomplished something. Or is being governor of the largest state in the union not important. And have we forgotten that her state had a surplus, while every state with a liberal governor has driven them into massive deficits? Not bad for a glassy eyed Bible thumper.

The only reason Alaska had a surplus is the oil revenues are so large, and the population of politicians too small, to steal it all.

Fixed that for you.

Arnold?

Palin will have been governor of the 47th largest state.

Heheheh.

I wouldn't be bragging about Arnold's state. It's bankrupt. And here's your link repaired.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tories_by_area

And surplus of oil? The entire country has a surplus of oil. The difference is, Alaskans have enough guts to drill. And the politicians were trying to steal it, but Palin took them out. Obviously MSNBC and CNN didn't bother reporting that.

The Alaskans had the guts to drill? C'mon gimme a fuckin break. :lol2:
Every bit of the oil and the drilling is on Federal land, they had no say in the matter. The state didn't put up a dime, the oil companies paid for everything including the pipeline and ports, Alaska is reaping the benefits from. Not only employment but a check every year to every state resident big enough to More than pay their state taxes.

Aside, the pipe and heavy equipment came from Japan and that's where the oil goes, to pay for all those Sonys and Toyotas.

My link was fine. You don't govern acres.

Check Bruce's post above.

Reasons for Palin's resignation are due to a cacophony of details - quoted here in the same disjointed way that those details have apparently conspired to change her life. From the NY Times of 12 Jul 2009: One other factor apparent in all these examples is a disconnect between Palin and her staff. They appear to be somewhat uninformed and therefore largely disorganized.

Alaska's entire population is less than 1 million people, so arguing that she was governor of the largest state is outrageously disingenuous. Most large cities have more people than the entire state of Alaska.

And Joe Biden has extensive foreign policy experience, which Sarah Palin has none. Seeing Russia from Alaska doesn't really count.

Gov of the largest state by land area.

1 Alaska 663,267
2 Texas 268,581
3 California 163,696
4 Montana
5 New Mexico
6 Arizona
7 Nevada
8 Colorado
9 Oregon
10 Wyoming
11 Michigan
12 Minnesota
13 Utah
14 Idaho
15 Kansas
16 Nebraska
17 South Dakota
18 Washington
19 North Dakota
20 Oklahoma
21 Missouri
22 Florida
23 Wisconsin
24 Georgia
25 Illinois
26 Iowa
27 New York
28 North Carolina
29 Arkansas
30 Alabama
31 Louisiana
32 Mississippi
33 Pennsylvania
34 Ohio
35 Virginia
36 Tennessee
37 Kentucky
38 Indiana
39 Maine
40 South Carolina
41 West Virginia
42 Maryland
43 Hawaii
44 Massachusetts
45 Vermont
46 New Hampshire
47 New Jersey
48 Connecticut
49 Delaware
50 Rhode Island

By population Calif is number 1, AK is number 47.

By personal income Calif is number 7, AK is number 42.

Fun facts which don't change the fact that Caif is bankrupt and a shinning example of how socialist states fail. :D

And never overestimate the intelligence of libertarians who like to pigeon-hole people.

For what? A source of free money makes her job even easier, on top of the tiny population.

Governing a massive state means nothing if there are very few people there, you know? And California isn't the only state that is in serious trouble. Part of the problem is the federal government isn't doing it's job, and California is having to pay for things which it shouldn't, like the big sucking black hole that is illegal immigration.

It is the only one I have heard of that issuing IOU's and not paying it's bills.

Agreed.

Well part of it is Prop 13. It's great to reduce taxes by 57% and then lock it all in by required a 2/3 majority to increase them - unless you actually need the money. And even if you wanted to cut social programs and such, you still need a government to handle earthquakes, fires, and other natural disasters. With the stock market tanking, California is probably down to the bone and a 2/3 majority almost guarantees gridlock in any emergency tax measures. I doubt they can find enough significant cuts, hence the stalemate.

It is natural to want more from the government in services than you give it in taxes.

Low tax and low spending might work.
High tax and high spending might work.
Low tax and high spending might be appropriate in times of war, disaster, or economic crisis; but as a business-as-usual policy it can only lead to collapse.

It seems many people lack the resolution to live within their means, either individually or collectively.

Bwahahaha!

The real hilarity hasn't even begun, yet!

She wrote an editorial in the Washington Post about Cap and Trade, in which she made no mention of global warming.

Maybe because the program as written will have such a little effect on the actual temperature change in 50 years.

Or longer. :rolleyes:

If so, that would have been worth mentioning.

True. But the whole Cap and Trade is dependent on so much smoke and mirrors and assumptions, no one can say for sure that it will do any thing. Maybe that is why she didn't mention it (FTR I have not read the article). Well it will raise all the prices of power supply and many other pass throughs.

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