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classicman 02-24-2012 12:50 PM

Thought for sure you'd get it after reading the "bills."
No worries. There actually were a few in there, but the majority were pretty much just BS.
Did you read the comments? I was shaking my head at times and literally chuckling at others.

classicman 02-24-2012 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 797532)
Sometimes you seem to play both ends against the middle which can make you interesting, but hard to figure out. :confused:

I don't play for either team. Not sorry.

SamIam 02-24-2012 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by classicman (Post 797545)
Thought for sure you'd get it after reading the "bills."
No worries. There actually were a few in there, but the majority were pretty much just BS.
Did you read the comments? I was shaking my head at times and literally chuckling at others.

The comments were the best part. I left one myself, but it hadn't shown up yet the last time I checked.

richlevy 02-24-2012 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 797477)
Demoncratically controlled Senate and Hairy Reed

Wow. You really have given up on being taken seriously.

SamIam 02-24-2012 09:25 PM

Has anyone here EVER taken Merc seriously? :right:

ZenGum 02-24-2012 10:31 PM

I keep thinking this thread is about Santorum mainlining protestants.

Lamplighter 02-26-2012 08:05 PM

I realize it has become repetitive, but Rick is not letting up.

CBS News
Leigh Ann Caldwell

Santorum: Church/state separation not absolute

I don't believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute,"
Santorum said Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

He was referring to a 1960 speech by then-presidential candidate
John F. Kennedy on religion and governance,
which Santorum said "makes me throw up."

"Because the first line, first substantive line in the speech says, 'I believe in America
where the separation of church and state is absolute," the former Pennsylvania senator said
"You bet that makes you throw up."<snip>

Kennedy gave the speech during his campaign for presidency
because of concerns about his Catholic faith.
He assured the public, including concerned Protestant leaders,
that he would not be "the Catholic candidate for President [saying]
I am the Democratic Party's candidate for President who happens also to be a Catholic."

classicman 02-26-2012 08:06 PM

Look where it got Kennedy ... :shotgun:

Lamplighter 02-26-2012 08:08 PM


Sorry Classic, but you know (I hope) that religion had nothing to do with the assassination.

classicman 02-26-2012 08:18 PM

Oh ferchrissakes...

Lamplighter 02-26-2012 09:14 PM

Yes Classic, I know....
I've been quite impatient with the world these past few days.
No particular reason. Time for a hiatus from (or on ?) politics for me.

Take care... Peace.

classicman 02-26-2012 10:11 PM

nah. Its just the election year rhetoric. Seems to be in high gear already and it
isn't even March yet. Gonna be a long year and I'm not really looking forward to it.

SamIam 02-26-2012 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by classicman (Post 797908)
Oh ferchrissakes...

That horse can’t be beaten enough. I remember all too well the times when abortions were illegal and birth control could be difficult for a woman to obtain. In college and high school I had teachers and professors who felt women were not equipped to study science and mathematics. In high school I had a chemistry teacher who believed that women's brains could not grasp the fundamentals of even introductory chemistry. The first day of class he would announce that no woman in the class would receive a grade lower than a "C" (since our brains didn't work like a man's). Nor would a woman receive a grade higher than a "B" (since our minds didn't work like a man's). Santorum is living proof that the old bigotry against women is still alive and well.

In Santorum’s 2005 book, "It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good," his opposition to contraception (as well as to abortion, even in the case of rape) seems part and parcel of a deep hostility toward women. Santorum has stated that " Life beginning at conception is not a belief, it is not an article of faith, it is an article of fact. It's a biological fact that life, in fact, begins as conception…”

Errr… wrong. All those little wigglers that we call sperm are very much alive BEFORE conception. And they can stay alive for a day or more. What an outrage that all those potential human beings aren’t provided an egg (also alive all by itself) to penetrate, so none of that DNA goes to waste and those poor little HUMAN sperm have to die. Tisk, tisk.

Santorum’s little diatribes may seem beyond the pale to most of you, but not all that long ago, abortions were illegal and women died in back allies at the hands of butchers, as a result. I remember those days. In Colorado, the only way a woman could get an abortion was if the woman’s life would be endangered by carrying the fetus to term. You either found an understanding shrink and told him that you would kill yourself if you had to have the baby (and thus went on record as being mentally unstable), or if a woman had the money, she flew to California which had just legalized abortions. And remember that back in the 60’s, it was shameful for a woman to have a baby out of wedlock – not like today where it seems like there are more single mothers than married ones. I knew several women my age who suffered terribly because of the laws against abortion then on the books.

In addition, Santorum has shown nothing but contempt for what his book called the "radical" feminist "pitch" that "men and women be given an equal opportunity to make it to the top in the workplace." Obviously, women should live at home and be supported by their parents until the knight in shining armor shows up to whisk her away and keep her pregnant and working in the kitchen. After all, the Bible says that. Somewhere.

Then there’s the book's dismissal of programs to help impoverished single mothers improve their job prospects by returning to school: "The notion that college education is a cost-effective way to help poor, low-skill, unmarried mothers with high school diplomas or GEDs move up the economic ladder is just wrong." Oh, really? So what are these women supposed to do? Work for minimum wage at some dead end job? How will they support their children on such low wages? I guess these women and children deserve what they get for not having a man around to support them. After all, the Bible says that. Somewhere.

Santorium’s world view is shared by the religious right who have already proved they can get out the vote, and by Southern state’s rights whackos like Merc. “Oh, Georgia (Alabama, South Carolina, etc.) are going to prove that the South can rise again by exercising their state’s “right” to make birth control and abortions illegal. Don’t think it couldn’t happen. It could.

So take your dead horse and ride him off into the sunset.


classicman 02-26-2012 10:42 PM

WTF are you babbling about?
Santorum is never N.E.V.E.R. getting elected to anything... EVER.
Now stop wasting you breath.

classicman 02-26-2012 10:51 PM

10 Reasons Why We Will Miss Bush

Figured a little OBVIOUS levity was needed.

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