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Originally posted by depmats
You don't have to be at the top of a chain of command to come up with a fucked up idea. It is possible, whether you will admit it or not, that they DID do this on their own. We don't know - not you, not me. Conspiracy theories will abound and everybody can believe what they want, but you don't know for a fact that it does go beyond them and I don't know for a fact that it doesn't.
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I don't say it is impossible that this went higher, but I am sick and tired of armchair generals like you sitting back and assuming that it went to the highest levels, "OMG america is crumbling, lets burn the village and cut our wrists so the world doesn't have to be ravaged by our decadent society anymore... "
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Actually, we know where this came from. It came from the White House. It was White House counsel that said that the US doesn't have to follow Geneva Conventions anymore. He didn't say it in a vacuum either. He said it to senior White House staff, maybe even the President. That attitude trickled down through the ranks to the prison guards. It came from the TOP. I'm sure the idea of the the naked piles of prisoners didn't come from the White House, but the general idea of the suspension of the Geneva Conventions did.
And by the way, I know how terribly sick and tired you are, but if you are quoting somebody saying that America should slit its wrists, maybe you should attribute that quote to somebody specific. Unless, of course, you pulled the quote out of your ass.