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Originally posted by Undertoad
"Because we talk to them" is not a nonsense answer; it's the right answer. It's a huge answer. Because they are involved in diplomacy, and have been moving in the right direction with respect to joining the rest of the world in handling matters diplomatically, China will not be a threat to the security of the US or the world.
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To understand what Undertoad has posted - we talk to China. Therefore China is not a threat even though they do same as N Korea - who we were talking to until extemists took over the American government. We were talking to N Korea. The US policy towards N Korea previously was 'engagement'. Get the N Koreans engaged as a responsible member of the world community. It was working since Kim Il Sung II wanted to undo the mess created by his father. But along comes the right wing extremist George Jr and his black/white view of the world.
Tell us, Undertoad. Have you ever previously found me so one sided against an American leader before? Why? What has changed? This is what your next post must address. Why do I find this adminstration as or more dangerous than Nixon?
North Korea was joining the world community due to overtures by Clinton and S Korea's Sunshine policy. S Korea's Sunshine policy was working because, in part, Clinton understood the intelligence of the policy and supported it. Then came mental midget George Jr who decided to declare "Axis of Evil". Suddenly and a direct result of American presidential ignorance, N Korea stopped being cooperative, destroyed years of work promoted by Clinton and S Korea, and exported missiles to raise foreign reserves. IOW they export missiles in numbers same as China. The only reason we don't talk to N Korea is because of a right wing extemist Geroge Jr administration. Take away that one factor - then China and North Korea are equally evil nations - according to definitions of National Security Advisor Rice.
If George Jr's extermists had attack China over a spy plane, then China too would be an Axis of Evil. Is it N Korea's actions that make them a terrorist nation - or the action of an extemist George Jr administration?
Don't you see why Cookie so jumped all over Rice after the National Security Advisor defined a terrorist nation? This is glaring obvious. According to Rice's myopic definition, both China and N Korea should be "Axis of Evil" nations. But since we don't maltreat China, then China is exempt from the details that otherwise makes China a terrorist nation. China is only exempt because China is not maltreated as N Korea. Then only reason we and S Korea no longer talk to N Korea - George Jr's adminstration. IOW N Korea is only an 'Axis of Evil' member because and again, George Jr destroyed years of engagement - years of work - by previous adminstrations and nations.
Had George Jr continued working with S Korea, with the Sunshine policy, with what Clinton had accomplished, then N Korea would not qualify as an Axis of Evil. But that assumed George Jr understood what Clinton and S Korea were doing.
This Axis of Evil definition is only created when Rice changes defintions after listing them in detail. IOW after defining what constitutes an "Axis of Evil" nation, she makes a liar out of herself. What is worse, N Korea qualifies as an "Axis of Evil" because they have reacted, as they should have, to right wing rhetoric of George Jr.
Engagement was working. The Sunshine policy was perfectly timed in conjuction with a new N Korean leader who desperately wanted to join the world community. Then along comes a mental midget president who undermines relations with both Koreas, then blames N Korea for conditions created by his extremist right wing advisors.
So when was the last time over 10+ years that I have ever been so critical of any American president? Notice that this criticism is based entirely on the actions and policies of a man who acts only as an extremist in a nation that is historically so moderate and tolerant. N Korea is only an "Axis of Evil" nation because George Jr has forced N Korea into its current position. George Jr, singlehandedly in one year, has destroyed a decade of work by both S Korea and Clinton because two years ago, George Jr did not even know where N Korea was located - we must assume.