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Originally Posted by jaguar
What year is it? No, really. They have no been in a position to reign in militants without outside help for a very long time, as the situation has deteriorated they have lost most remaining authority and ability.
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If Arafat had authority in 1999 then you still need to explain why he didn't reign in the terrorists at that point.
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Secondly, you fail to differentiate between an understandable response and a valid response. I in no way support terrorism but I understand why people have resorted to the actions they have, it's called empathy.
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Struggling to have empathy for the terrorists and avoiding it for the innocent victims is called being an ass... at the politest.
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Secondly, please stop using the 'aww cute liddle kid got wasted line', it does nothing for your argument and frankly, serves only to undermine the entire discussion.
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I will most certainly not stop. She is at the root of everything we've discussed. You have empathy for her killer. You believe that, if you were in her killer's place, you could find yourself making the same decision, to push that button or pull that trigger.
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I'd like to see a source (preferably avoid rabid zionist monthly this time) for the 'vast majority', in detail. I'm fairly convinced the vast majority of people just want to get on with their lives without being shot, humiliated, bombed, shot at from choppers, caught in inter-group fighting and IDF/militant fighting. That goes for both sides. The 70% odd support for the withdrawal from Gaza points strongly to that. Those that do support continuing the campaign most likely do so because periods of relative peace certainly haven't drawn many concessions from the Israelis.
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Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research in Ramallah.
Poll taken 3 weeks ago. Survey SAYS:
- 10) If separate elections were to take place for the office of the president of the PA, you would vote for:
Arafat 54%, Other 15%, Don't know 27%
- 13) Would you support or oppose armed attacks against Israeli targets from the Gaza Strip after the implementation of this disengagement plan which has been approved by the Israeli government?
55% support or strongly support.
- 16) In recent weeks there is a sharp decrease in the level of violence exerted by both sides. In your opinion should Palestinians continue nevertheless the suicide bombings inside Israel if an opportunity arises?
58.6% yes or definitely yes