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Originally posted by Nothing But Net
<b>jag</b>, all I'm saying is the Jews are finally striking back after 3000 years of getting fucked over, and I applaud the fact.
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Mmmmm, okay. How about... all black americans rise up after getting fucked over for hundreds of years of racism and slavery? Ah, yeah, great! Would you applaud that too?
It's hardly accurate to say "the Jews are finally striking back". Israel has been striking for its entire 54 years. Period.
I am generally an Israeli sympathizer. But the attack on Arafat's compound makes little sense. Look at it this way: Israel is demanding that Arafat "rein in militants". Then they go blow up his police stations. Yes, that makes perfect sense. Let's kill all his police, so he can arrest militants.
Let's not forget that Israel struck first in the 1967 war and claimed the Sinai, Gaza Strip, West Bank and Golan Heights (From Egypt, Jordan and Syria, respectively). That is, of course, a little mentioned fact. It's always spun that Israel was under attack - ummmm, no. Israel thought it was going to be attacked and they hit first. They also happened to win because of US backing. They continue to win because of US backing. Israel is practically the 51st state. It might as well be.
Attacking Arafat is symbolic and serves only one purpose - to destroy his government so he is not able to function. Sharon does not want peace. Neither does Netanyahu, who is even scarier than Sharon. Both are extremists, just like those in the far-right Arab camp (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, ...., etc). Israel does not go after the leader of Hamas. They hardly ever target decision makers in the big organizations. They go after the lower people. Why? Because it's not in their best interest. 30 casualties in a few days is an acceptable loss to Israel because they have so much to gain - the world's sympathy and a permanent "right" to the occupied lands, namely.
All that having been said, I believe that Israel shows incredible restraint. They don't round up Palestinian civilians and off them. But they end up killing them inadvertently anyway.
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They, like yourself apparently, don't seem to understand that living in constant fear of having yourself and your family senselessly blown to bits without warning, for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, is not a good thing.
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And you, like many other Americans, don't seem to understand that Palestinians are living in that same fear. 1,230 Palestinians have been killed between September 29, 2000 and March 20, 2002. 18,507 have been injured in the same conflict. On the Israeli side, less than 300 have been killed.
Those numbers are telling of an irrefutable fact - Israel's strikes are more deadly than Palestinian extremists'. <b>Many</b> of those Palestinian deaths are innocent civilians.
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We ain't taking no Roman or Nazi shit no more!
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This is in no way relevant to what's going on right now. That's a mistake many people make - they sympathize with Israel because they have been persecuted in the past. Unfortunately, that past has no bearing on what is going on right now. Romans, Nazis, they don't matter. This is between Palestinians and Israelis. The Palestinians weren't cooking rabbis in Germany.
The fact of the matter is that there are extremists on both sides. It's Sharon vs Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. Don't get to thinking that Israel is an innocent little country that keeps getting attacked - they have their fare share of atrocities in their closet too. The attacks on Arafat's headquarters are hardly warranted and make no sense at all. They are meant simply to provoke the Palestinians, so Sharon can says "see? Look! They're attacking us again! We need to strike back harder!" - that way, he can eliminate the Palestinians with no questions asked.
It's people like you that, by turning a blind eye to his atrocities, give him the power to perform genocide.