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iamthewalrus109 · 11-17-2004, 02:06 PM

In response to Marchikos response: Well your right it may be immoral and wrong, but at some point after sustained casualties and zero results, I think there will be dissent on tactics. I by no means advocate scorched earth tactics, please marchiko, you read too much into my comments. I simply think it's time for a commander to continue when it's ammeable to do as such. My case in point is the ceasing of the initial foray into Fallujah, which was stopped by Bremner.

Now I'm hoping that after this election we have a more effective war effort in Iraq. Now that Bush doesn't have to worry about winning and we have 4 years I hope something is done. Pulling out will only embolden the terrorists, and hostile or semi-hostile states to assume we are on the retreat. They'll beat the hell out of us in a trade war or be working a way to get surretripous agents through our borders, regardless it's either now or never. Sitting and bitching about the Geneva convention or delveing into the ramblings of the diplomacy set isn't going to help us now.

As far as Reagan is concerned, Iraq's build up was deemed necessary at the time. I think we have learned our lesson, or maybe we haven't, point being that was then this is now. There are true stakes for the future of Western civilization as we know it. It's too late to close up shop and hope that by reconginzing Western style laws and edicts we can appease the zealots out to kill all of us.

-Walrus

11-17-2004, 02:06 PM	#15
iamthewalrus109 High Propagandist Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111	Could be your right cowgirl In response to Marchikos response: Well your right it may be immoral and wrong, but at some point after sustained casualties and zero results, I think there will be dissent on tactics. I by no means advocate scorched earth tactics, please marchiko, you read too much into my comments. I simply think it's time for a commander to continue when it's ammeable to do as such. My case in point is the ceasing of the initial foray into Fallujah, which was stopped by Bremner. Now I'm hoping that after this election we have a more effective war effort in Iraq. Now that Bush doesn't have to worry about winning and we have 4 years I hope something is done. Pulling out will only embolden the terrorists, and hostile or semi-hostile states to assume we are on the retreat. They'll beat the hell out of us in a trade war or be working a way to get surretripous agents through our borders, regardless it's either now or never. Sitting and bitching about the Geneva convention or delveing into the ramblings of the diplomacy set isn't going to help us now. As far as Reagan is concerned, Iraq's build up was deemed necessary at the time. I think we have learned our lesson, or maybe we haven't, point being that was then this is now. There are true stakes for the future of Western civilization as we know it. It's too late to close up shop and hope that by reconginzing Western style laws and edicts we can appease the zealots out to kill all of us. -Walrus Last edited by iamthewalrus109; 11-17-2004 at 02:12 PM.