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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
In another story they captured a police station, took all the cops out and shot them then blew up the station. How in hell did they capture a police station with all these cops still alive. Didn't they know they would be killed if they lost the station? Stupid, stupid people. Get out now there's no hope for these fools.
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The cops that were shot were probably fools. They worked for Americans when insurgents were coming. Smart Iraqis get paid by Americans and never show up when the shooting starts. Their peers are the insurgents.
Good Morning Vietnam. The insurgents are everywhere. They are the police. They are the American trained army. Do you think it was an accident that Americans went to lunch in Mosul while Iraqi National Guardsmen at that base never appeared for lunch? Why? Notice who were not at lunch when the suicide bomber walked in. Welcome to Vietnam where any Iraqi may be the enemy - no matter what uniform he wears.
America created this mess starting with no Phase Four plans ... 7 months after "Mission Accomplished". Five months after the country should have had electricity and civil services everywhere, finally the mental midget president finally decided to execute Phase Four planning. Administration finally decided to restore those services and create civil order. After months of looting, the mental midget president finally decided to deal with well understood and predicted problems - while Rumsfeld said there was no looting (just like a look alike called McNamara did 30 some years previous).
So a mental midget president fires the Iraqi police and army - and created even more insurgents.
There is no law and order. The Joint Chiefs - using basic human intelligence - correctly predicted what would be necessary. A minimum of 200,000 troops for at least 2 years. Instead we MBAed Iraq. We cost controlled to peace. One need only look at Tobias's posts to see how we did nothing. We had no Phase Four plans. Instead we have an MBA president who never ran a successful organization. So now he will run a conquered nation? Now we need 300,000 soldiers, minimum, for up to 5 years. Instead we have about 1/2 that required number.
So the Secretary of State finally tells this point blank to George Jr and Tony Blair simultaneously. He says we have too few troops in country. The mental midget president sends in a trivial 12,000 more troops. Classic MBA solution. Cost control it.
An Iraqi battalion in Mosul learns that insurgents are coming from Falluga. Immediately 250 of the 500 Guardsmen don't show up. They were there only for the money - the only jobs available. Others desert when sent in to defend 6,000 policemen in police stations. IOW the Battalion had less than 100 soldiers. You tell me. Who is the enemy of Iraq? Anyone who actually works for Americans.
The smart Policemen? Put on masks and looted the police stations.
Iraqis are not dumb - except the ones who actually acted as American policemen. Patriots ARE the insurgents - in too many cases. Were 6000 Mosul policemen shot? Of course not. They were only policemen when it was safe and they were getting paid by Americans. They are not dumb.
It is rediculous to not expect this picture. Change the landscape and we have Vietnam all over again. Those (like a mental midget president) who failed to learn their history are doomed to repeat it. Good Morning Vietnam. The name of the book is "Making of a Quagmire". Except it was already written 41 years ago.