[jaguar]

*sighs* Try doing 60-70 hours a week schoolwork and 20 hours work, schoolwork all contributing towards and end of year mark that will decide whether you can get into your uni course or not and see how well you type. I'm enough goddamn caffine to keep half of NYC awake.
As for it being PC

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

- Socrates
Which is what happened every time you used it as a targetm maggie.

And since all evidence says there was no massacre, of course -- of COURSE they want military experts and not politicians to examine the evidence. (That's what this delay is all about.) Because they feel the UN has recently been used as a wedge against them. Because the first UN guy in stupidly painted the bleakest picture he could paint, participating in the propaganda war instead of ending it pointedly. "It smells bad," he said. "It's disgusting and sad." Not "80% of the damage is tactical, there is evidence of booby-trapping, and the body count is consistent with house-to-house fighting."

Erm I’d call destruction of an entire neighbourhood pretty damn sad on top of everything else.

Why have house to house fighting at all? If all you want to do is wage brutal war on a people, the Israelis have excellent means to do that. They have fighter jets and Apache helicopters and serious munitions. If the only goal is a smackdown, send in the jets. The goal here was clearly something different. I think the big picture is yet to emerge, even. I think the real goal was the intelligence information they got from those locations, which they say proves a lot of the secret Arab/Iraqi/Iranian backing of all the warfare. That changes the politics of the thing.

The aim of the campaign has been clear, to destroy the "terrorist infrastructure" you need to be on the ground to do that, that’s why they rounded up every man between 14 and 50.

And as far as war crimes go, there are surely many of them, but the very first one is you don't use unmarked civilians to kill civilians, isn't it?

There's the cause of an occupied people, and then there's the cause of the entire region which prevents there from being any progress on the cause of those people. The real problem is that this is a proxy war and the Palestinians are pawns. The real war is the Arabic/Persian world against the entire west.

Wha? Rightyo then....
Proxy war against the west? You seem to be making a whole lotta logical leaps there i'm not going to even bother trying to follow. If there is a proxy war, its against Isreal, not the west, and ill leave proxy wars at that.
But in all seriousness, why the fuck would they stop bombing now? Isreal has made it clear it'll take all it can, give nothing back and do whatever the fuck it wants? If I was Arafat I'd be saying bomb them, we've got nothing to lose.
So what is Syria et al is supporting Palastine? The US is giving arms to Isreal, why can't they do the same? Because its symmetrical warfare instead of asymmetrical that’s make is all nice and fair? The PLO isn't even allowed real weapons, how are they meant to take on one of the worlds most powerful armies, to argue the killing civilians line is to blow smoke, thin smoke.
The US is so goddman pissweak they can't even push Sharon in the right direction, and in the process have further cemented the Arab world's view that the US doesn't give a shit, if they attack Iraq now it will be with the entire Middle East supporting Iraq, and from where they stand, why not? Celarly the US has learnt nothign since S11, and if it happens again, i won't be in the tiniest bit shocked, you tell the worlds second largest religion in proxy that you don't give a flying fuck, what do you expect?