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Originally posted by Undertoad
Right, the destruction of a neighborhood is pretty damn sad, but that wasn't the point of the guy's visit. Everybody knows it's sad. I mean, duh. ...
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This post demonstrates so many illogical conclusions that I don't even know where to start.
If UN commentary from Jenin was so wrong, then an honest Israeli government would want lots of press and the most senior core of UN investigators into Jenin three weeks ago. However, Israel fears more facts will get out in support of those original comments and keeps all but 'approved' reporters out of Jenin.
Reality is that Israel has something to hide. ABC News danced around that fact in tonight's report. For every report that says there were no massacres, I read about three that says something very bad happened in Jenin. Of course, only the 'approved' reporters are currently permitted in Jenin - something that Undertoad forgets to mention.
Furthermore, Undertoad conveniently forgets that Israel promised to withdraw immediately about 1 month ago. Accroding to Undertoad, such a withdraw takes time. Yep. Time to invade and withdraw from Hebron - just the latest town to be attacked for no good reason.
Clearly much more than 50 non-Israelis died in Jenin. The numbers will not exceed 500. But most who died were probably not combatents, but must be defined as combatants by Israel to not be guilty of crimes against humanity. Clearly Israel so fears such accusations (as Sharon did in his previous massacre) that Israel will keep the UN even out of their own refugee camp - at least until all evidence is removed. 95% of all killed were not combatants - contrary to another lied from the dichead's governement that Undertoad posted naively. Such Israeli claims continuously reek of a lie. We don't know the numbers, but we do know that anyone who give credence to Israeli claims without independent verification is guilty of emotional bias. Once emotion for Israel is removed, then all claims by the Israeli government have so little credence as to first require independent verification. Without such verification, those claims must be cited as suspect.
In logical terms - why do the Israelis fear any UN commission - especially when said commission is composed of some of the world's most honest and least biased investigators? Why does the invasion of West Bank reek of symptoms found in all previous Sharon 'crimes against humanity'?
All current Middle East violence was part of Sharon's plans to destroy Oslo. He is a shrewd bastard. Explain those last 39 new settlements in the West Bank? Tell the world in unbias, unemotional terms why those settlements are ethical, honest, and legal. They are there to incite more violence and as part of the annexation of the West Bank.
There is no doubt the ultimate purpose of this invasion - ethnic cleansing. That is fact. That has always been fundamental to Sharon's policies. There is absolutely no doubt that Sharon advocates and does everything possible to annex the occupied territories. A few massacres of innocent civilians in Jenin is but a trivial matter to a man with so much blood already on his hands. What are 100 dead innocent civilians when you have already massacred 5,000 without any investigation?
An honest man would not trust anything from an Likud Israel. However, underoad posts Israeli propaganda without any necessary confirmation. A latest lie was nonsense about military men on the UN commission. There was no honesty in that response AND there was no need for any military men on any senior commission sent to investigate crimes against humanity. However, now that the Israeli demands were met that minute (a surprise to the dichead), then he suddenly changes his mind and bans the UN. Sharon is hiding something meaning that anyone who posts Israeli lies does not do so from an unbiased position.
The Arab world does not care about the Palestinians is nonsense promoted by right wing extremists. Arab concern is why Cheney had reality slapped into his face on his 11 day tour. It is why special plans were made in Crawford TX is the Saudi Prince left after only one hour.
Arabs are furious. As the Economist now notes, cafes turn silent (board games and gambling in Egypt now stops) every hour when Al Jezzera broadcasts the hourly news report. The man in the Arab street is furious. Tempers are seething. Extremists such as Osama bin Laden are finding recruits everywhere. Arab governments are desperately trying to maintain order and stability. It becomes harder every week while a US president without a backbone will try to forget he said "immediately". IOW your comments about the Arab world are biased in Likud terms only. ?We have yet to see the anger erupt.