Thread: God? Faith?
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:44 PM   #90
Troubleshooter
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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
The needs of the spirit can't be filled with reason. Not only is pure reason a cold companion, it's faulty when it comes to things related to the soul. You're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, that when you sense a void in your life, you either try to work it out intellectually, or write it off as a "shit happens" moment. That's not filling anything, that's just analysis.
1) Why do you presume that there is a spiritual component the needs to be filled?

2) Not everything that occurs in our lives has a reason based on reason. Causality may exist but we may not be able to see it. Why make something up, wrap it in pretty trappings and call it truth if there may just be not other reason than causality?


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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
No one needs hollow comfort, but everyone searches for real peace. You shouldn't take anyone's word about anything spiritual - it's all there for you to find yourself. It would be nice if you could look at a Christian and see a real difference in their life, and have the truth become immediately apparent, but the fact is we aren't very good at being righteous. So just spend some time reflecting, without being defensive or running through all the sins of "the church" over the years, or all the times someone calling themselves Christian did something horrible.
A made up story is still just a made up story, whether it comes from a mad arab, or some guy staring at his belly button. Either one may just be a different face of the same reality, but that still presumes the existence of some spiritual something.

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
At some point you realize some voids can't be filled with reason, and the only option left is to ask God to explain why. The trick is not to ignore the answer, which usually conflicts with what we want to hear ("Everything's going to be alright, just keep doing what you're doing.")

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