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Old 03-30-2005, 04:35 PM   #34
Troubleshooter
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Originally Posted by jaguar
This implies that unless you kill the guy, the problem isn't over, that was my gripe there.
Gripe with the guy or gripe with the law enforcement community's inability to enforce some of its laws effectively?

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Originally Posted by jaguar
If someone came at me yes, I would almost certainly try and disable them in a way that would also kill them.
I don't mean this disparagingly, but your use of the word 'disable' in this context may be a good indicator of the difference in thinking across the ponds.

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Originally Posted by jaguar
To nail this real nice and hard. If I was in say, Switzerland where I could quite reasonably and would probably own and have with me a pistol: Let's game it. I wake up, hear a noise, take out the gun, get up and go hunting, walk into living room, see a guy there. If he comes at me, I'm going to shoot him till he stops coming at me, if he runs off, I'm just going to make sure he's gone and call the cops.

I guess in short I value life, including criminals, higher than property.
I don't value property as property per se. I value it as how much of my life it would take to replace it. My time is more valuable than the time of someone who is only willing to take the time to steal it.
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