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Old 04-04-2005, 12:12 AM   #22
Radar
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yes radar. i can see how getting elected to a regional position in a "3rd party" is on the level with rising to the level of cardinal and then being elected by one's peers to be the 264th pope in 2000 years is the same. exactly the same.
Rising to the level of cardinal? All that takes is sticking around. What do you think it requires to "rise" to the level of cardinal? Just being a priest long enough would get you to that level. What number of pope he is in what number of years is completely irrelevant. If I made my own religion and called myself the pope of it, I'd be the only pope in the history of the world. I'm not impressed with any position within any religion.

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exactly when did the Soviets decide you were important enough to assassinate?
At the same time they decided the pope was important enough to assassinate. In otherwords, the Soviets never tried to assassinate the pope. One individual tried, but he wasn't sent by the Soviets and if you claim otherwise you're even more stupid than we all thought. Also, since when does having someone try to kill you make you important?

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and no i'm not catholic, so i don't believe he was any more infallible than any other man but only an idiot would make the statements you do and expect to be taken seriously.
No, only an idiot would would make such a claim about what I said. And this means you...idiot! I am very serious, and every single thing I've said is true.

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uh--Radar--are we to believe that you believe you are MORE or AS accomplished as the late Pope? Wow. Your megalomania knows no bounds. Really. How do you suppose? I don't see you influencing global policy anywhere.
Wow, are you really this stupid or are you just acting? I am indeed as accomplished or even more accomplished as the pope. By all means tell me what he's done on his own without the church that makes him so accomplished. Being selected by a bunch of cardinals isn't a major accomplishment, so what do you have?

Also, the fact that I consider myself the equal or better of any human on earth (equal to the good and better than the bad) who has ever lived or who ever will does not make me a megalomaniac. It makes me a man. I am a man and he is a man. He is nothing more. The difference is I make my own way and I don't live off the efforts of others. I earn my own living. I don't surround myself with an organization that has tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands if not millions of people over the years and which has trillions of dollars worth of treasures (some of which was obtained by people in third world nations) and which promotes charity without using any of that treasure to help those people.

I think the pope was a good man. He had a good heart and wanted to do the right thing. He didn't always do the right thing, but he tried. If they had dressed up another man in the funny hat, he'd have done the same things. The political office of pope has historical significance, but the man was not that accomplished. He stayed in the church long enough to move up in the ranks and he was politically saavy enough to get elected by a relatively few cardinals.
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