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Originally Posted by BigV
Guess what time the sky turns from black to blue on this day? 4:05. The answer to how I know is the subject of another post, for when I have more energy to say. 
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According to my version of
Star Pilot, Civil Twilight started at 4:00am. (Astronomical started at 2:29am, but who's willing to get up that early?)
So, where did you get 4:05?
- Pie