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Old 07-13-2005, 07:58 AM   #8
Troubleshooter
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Thumbs up ZippyT

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Originally Posted by staceyv
God, Zippy. That was a real asshole thing to do. I like your posts, and you always seemed cool, but the way you acted wasn't cool at all.
I disagree. If someone choses to express themselves by stapling themselves into a state of social dissonance then they should not take offense when someone else choses to express themselves by simply shaking their head.

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Originally Posted by staceyv
It WAS disrespectful of you to shake your head at those people just because they choose to pierce themselves.
No where, to my knowledge, is respect a requirement, especially in America. What is there to respect about carrying five pounds of stainless steel around without your hands? The urge for uniqueness is understandable, but it in no way requires me to respect it other than to not shoot people for it. Anything short of infringing on their rights is free game.

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Originally Posted by staceyv
She had good reason to get offended- you don't need to SAY anything if you're giving someone the headshake of disapproval just because they're different.
No, she didn't. She expressed herself, he expressed himself. He just did it better. He just did it better. Excessive piercings is just passive-aggressive rebellion. Everybody starts out, and ends up different, there's no need to shout out the fact that you have low self esteem.

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Originally Posted by staceyv
Granted, she didn't have to flip out on you, she could've been a bigger person...
We've already established that she isn't by virtue of the fact that she uses something as mundane, and duplicatable, as piercings to express her individuality.

Say it with me now, "Come be different, like us!"

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Originally Posted by staceyv
But I understand why she did. Ya gotta accept people, you know? Leave them alone. Bad boy. Sit.
I understand why she did it as well, but I am under no compulsion to accept her behavior. Nor am I required to. If she feels the need to require my respect then she is missing out on the concept that she is then required to respect me. Her piercings scream louder than his passing head shake. Her piercings show a greater disrespect for the current cultural consensus than his head shake shows for one person.
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