I agree with Perth. I don't like a lot of hip-hop, but there are some great artists out there...among them:
--The two groups you already mentioned
--Mos Def
--Talib Kweli
--Black Star (the group consists of the above 2)
--OutKast
--Beastie Boys
--Del the Funky Homosapien (in whatever project he's in)
--Common
--Jurassic5
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