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Originally Posted by marichiko
Folks will go on crash diets out of desperation and not worry about nutrition. This is very counter-productive. You yourself admit that low caloric intake will slow down the metabolism. That was my point, also.
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True. My point was that you need to make a rather drastic change in your caloric intake to have a significant impact on your metabolism. Most people would not be able to cut their intake long enough (even on a “crash” diet) to alter their metabolism. Your original statement was:
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Originally Posted by marichiko
The absolute number one worst way to lose weight is to cut back on calories and not exercise.
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I was merely trying to clarify. You must cut back on calories to lose weight; otherwise, you to increase your activity level enough so that your intake = expenditure. This is way easier to do with diet than with exercise. If you do cut your caloric intake enough for your metabolism to change, you cannot counter this effect by exercising more. For most people who want to lose weight, it is far better to get one's diet under control before beginning any exercise program.
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Originally Posted by marichiko
The body will burn the acetates which are a product of alcohol consumption in preference to burning stored fat. Thus the calories in a glass of wine or shot of vodka are far more lethal than the calories in a can of soda pop.
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When it comes to weight loss, calories are calories. Period.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/calorie5.htm
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Originally Posted by marichiko
I didn't say avoid dairy products merely because of calories. I stated that cow's milk - from which dairy products are all derived - is a substance dedicated to the production of an animal which will one day weigh 800 pounds or more. Why eat dairy products if you want to be a slim 120 pounds?
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This makes no sense. All mammals produce milk, which is very similar in composition. Humans, as an accident of history, happen to drink cow’s milk more often than other mammals. Using your logic, I would assume drinking rat’s milk would be less harmful than drinking cow’s milk since adult rats weigh only a few pounds.
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Originally Posted by marichiko
And, no, we don't need to eat these things to survive, but you were worried about nutrition in the first paragraph of your response, why are you forgetting it here?
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Weight loss has nothing to do with nutrition. I was just making a point, not proselytizing.
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Originally Posted by marichiko
The human metabolism has evolved to support a diet of lean meat, whole grains and fruit and plenty of time spent on the move searching for food and avoiding predators.
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I interpreted this (probably incorrectly) as a statement that humans who eat a “balanced” diet have a survival advantage over those that do not. This is the point I was refuting. I probably should have said "human" history, rather than "recorded" history. That's what I meant, in any case.