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Urbane Guerrilla · 10-28-2005, 04:42 AM

Well, Radar, I see you start by contradicting yourself. Those are just the very people we should use force and violence against; you list the poster boys for Augustinian just war. It is self-evident that it is our place as human beings to disallow these people their evil ends.

At least, it's self-evident to the moral man, one who understands totalitarianism is evil. You don't. No wonder you're having such a hard time selling Libertarianism to the CellarDwellars -- they think all Libertarians resemble you in this moral absence. Really, why do you think you're a libertarian, big L or small, in view of your unwillingness to move against the slavemakers? How can you be libertarian if you refuse to break its opposite?

I'm more interested in human good than you are, that is clear. You don't seem to be able to work up any interest in it, let alone commitment to it, preferring instead to devote yourself to some -- what? Meditative abstraction? -- that I'd consider, at the end, a waste of your time. If you're a sociopath, Paul, that would explain your approach to libertarianism in a single word.

Nope, really what you're doing is trying to play the Inquisition, defending the orthodoxy as defined by yourself (letting yourself stand for any others about of like mind) -- a religious approach, for all you care to conceive it as quasimathematical, which isn't a methodology I'd trust for thinking about politics. If there was ever a nonmathematical paradigm, it is politics. At bottom, politics isn't mathematical -- it is emotional, as you demonstrate with your posts: when you see an intellectual challenge to your construct, you react with an increasing, over-the-edge, rabid fury. This isn't a thing of the mind for you any more, Paul. You're now working up on a visceral hate. Disgraceful. Your limbic system is controlling you now. Your lizard-brain, Paul. You expect to win converts with displays of this kind?? Come on, you need better salesmanship than that. You can't sell me on an idea if I go to my control panel and enter you on the Ignore Member list.

As for the rest of your ranting (and laddie, you're losing it) -- try me. There are already three distinct schools of libertarian thinking within the LP: left-, right-, and anarcho-libertarian. It may be that I will found a fourth. It may be one you'll never accept or believe in -- but then, so what exactly?

10-28-2005, 04:42 AM	#22
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Well, Radar, I see you start by contradicting yourself. Those are just the very people we should use force and violence against; you list the poster boys for Augustinian just war. It is self-evident that it is our place as human beings to disallow these people their evil ends. At least, it's self-evident to the moral man, one who understands totalitarianism is evil. You don't. No wonder you're having such a hard time selling Libertarianism to the CellarDwellars -- they think all Libertarians resemble you in this moral absence. Really, why do you think you're a libertarian, big L or small, in view of your unwillingness to move against the slavemakers? How can you be libertarian if you refuse to break its opposite? I'm more interested in human good than you are, that is clear. You don't seem to be able to work up any interest in it, let alone commitment to it, preferring instead to devote yourself to some -- what? Meditative abstraction? -- that I'd consider, at the end, a waste of your time. If you're a sociopath, Paul, that would explain your approach to libertarianism in a single word. Nope, really what you're doing is trying to play the Inquisition, defending the orthodoxy as defined by yourself (letting yourself stand for any others about of like mind) -- a religious approach, for all you care to conceive it as quasimathematical, which isn't a methodology I'd trust for thinking about politics. If there was ever a nonmathematical paradigm, it is politics. At bottom, politics isn't mathematical -- it is emotional, as you demonstrate with your posts: when you see an intellectual challenge to your construct, you react with an increasing, over-the-edge, rabid fury. This isn't a thing of the mind for you any more, Paul. You're now working up on a visceral hate. Disgraceful. Your limbic system is controlling you now. Your lizard-brain, Paul. You expect to win converts with displays of this kind?? Come on, you need better salesmanship than that. You can't sell me on an idea if I go to my control panel and enter you on the Ignore Member list. As for the rest of your ranting (and laddie, you're losing it) -- try me. There are already three distinct schools of libertarian thinking within the LP: left-, right-, and anarcho-libertarian. It may be that I will found a fourth. It may be one you'll never accept or believe in -- but then, so what exactly? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 10-28-2005 at 05:05 AM.