[tw]

Originally Posted by Shocker

Well tw...looks like you figured me out. I'm really an unpatriotic operative of Rush Limbaugh, here to try and sway your minds into actually following the laws of your government and to build support into protecting our borders, our jobs, our history, our language, our culture, and, um... well what else am I forgetting that I'm sure you think I'm trying to do?

No the truth is, you don't even know me or my motivations, and for you to just assume that I don't care about my country or am not patriotic is just ludicrous.

Only you have suggested something about you don't care for your country. I never even implied it. But if you did not read every sentence as if they were poison snakes, then you did not understand what I posted - and therefore had an emotional response. Read the defintion of 'American patriot'. Don't assume things not posted.

I asked for supporting facts bluntly. I even defined 'American patriot' which somehow you confused with some irrevelant interpretation about 'love of country' (There is no relationship between American patriot and 'love of country'). Read the previous post to learn how 'American patriot' was defined.

Meanwhile, show me one reason why Al Qaeda is a threat to you and your family - this time with facts that Rush Limbaugh is not incapable of [is there any relationship between you and Rush Limbaugh in that last sentence? If so, then that relationship is only from your own personal biases. If I thought you were as much as liar as Rush Limbaugh, then I would say so bluntly. Read only what is posted - nothing more.] .

Show me why illegal immigration is a threat to anyone. Illegal immigration channels are a very bad way for terrorist to enter the US; once we eliminate myths preached by Rush Limbaugh. Pure logic. But you somehow think illegal immigration can be stopped with law enforcement - even though history repeatedly says otherwise. So show me. Show me why history is wrong. So me how blind enforcement of laws will solve problems created by bad laws. And show me where this has anything to do with Al Qaeda - without including myths from Rush Limbaugh.

Currently your claims of Al Qaeda threats are supported only by myths. Myths often promoted by a liar Rush Limbaugh. Show me - with facts and numbers - why illegal immigration provides Al Qaeda with anything useful. You made that claim and did not provide supporting facts. Show us. Show us why this Rush Limbaugh claim is based in anything other than Rush Limbaugh propaganda.

Obviously I don't care for Oprah Winfrey nonsense about "How did you feel". Posting such tells me one has an emotion. Waste of good bandwidth. I asked for facts. I ask bluntly. And I measure the responder by whether he can reply with facts and numbers - or take personal insult like Rush Limbaugh would. Show me facts why Al Qaeda and illegal immigration are a threat to your family. To not provide such supporting information is Rush Limbaugh logic. And again - not an insult - just a fact from reality. Your made the statement. Back it up with facts.

What I did observe is that you did not read my previous post with care, then made assumptions, and never answered a single question. Maybe this time you could answer the questions - show us why you know what you posted.

Meanwhile, I only again reply with what was posted previously - because it answered Bruce's (and your) question completely (and again, what in that post did you not understand?). Enforcing current immigration laws is not possible - just like Prohibition. Only those who see solutions in military type terms would believe otherwise. The laws are currently being enforced as well as they ever could be. The problem is not law enforcement. When laws don't work, then the laws and their purpose - are flawed. Show me where wall on borders solved problems. Even the Great Wall of China was a failure. As was the wall to protect S Vietnam from N Vietnam. Or the Berlin wall. In each case, the wall existed only because a problem was elsewhere: the 'powers that be' were in denial. We have massive illegal immigration because we have problems that we have created. So instead we will fix the problem with Berlin walls? Nonsense. Total nonsense. As so often proven by history - nonsense and classic of what happens when a political leadership is the real problem.