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Old 04-19-2006, 11:43 AM   #2
OnyxCougar
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As a person whose father immigrated to this country in 1946, and achieved citizenship, and as a person who is the sponsor of a Croatian immigrant, I believe I can speak from experience in immigration matters, both past and present.

There are problems with immigration laws. No one denies that.
Filing immigration forms is expensive. $500 just to start the process.

But that doesn't make it OK for a person to break the laws in place in order to come to the US.

Oh, and those "low paying jobs that no one else will do" will become higher paying jobs when companies can't find illegals to do the work. It's the law of supply and demand, something your Economic soul can relate to, Tee.

One of the counter-arguements that the open-border and other pro-illegal types throw back at us is that the cost of food would sky-rocket if we restricted the numbers of illegals working in agriculture. The lines goes more or less, 'Do you want to pay $10 for a head of lettuce?'

Maybe we do.

This is a study on the costs to the Federal government of the illegals here. Among its findings:

"This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal immigration on the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused on the state and local level and have examined only costs or tax payments, but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that, when all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered, illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level of more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was an amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly $29 billion."

Let's see. $10 Billion plus another $20 Billion or so of capital they export back to their homelands, now we're starting to talk real money.

Quote:
The Mexican government slammed a newly approved immigrant enforcement law in the U.S. state of Georgia, saying the legislation discriminates against Mexicans while failing to resolve the migration issue.

Ruben Aguilar, the spokesman for President Vicente Fox, told a news conference Tuesday that Mexican consular officials will closely watch the application of the law, which gives Georgia some of the toughest measures against illegal immigrants in the United States.

"The referred legislation incurs discriminatory acts against the Mexican population and those of Mexican origin," Aguilar said. "It is a partial measure that fails to resolve the complex phenomenon of immigration between Mexico and the United States in an integral manner."

The law requires verification of the legal status of people seeking many state-administered benefits. It sanctions employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants and mandates that companies with state contracts check the immigration status of employees.

It also requires police to check the immigration status of people they arrest.

Georgia Gov. Sunny Perdue signed the bill Monday, after protests for and against it, and a daylong work stoppage by thousands of immigrants.

"I want to make this clear: we are not, Georgia's government is not, and this bill is not, anti-immigrant," Perdue said at the signing in Atlanta. "We simply believe that everyone who lives in our state needs to abide by our laws."
So El Presidente, who is RABID about other nations even COMMENTING on the way his country is being run, has a problem with how another soveriegn nation is dealing with criminals within it's borders? STFU.

Why don't ALL states adopt that simple law? No citizenship or working VISA = no benefits, no jobs. (actually, I thought that was already a law. whenever I started a new job I always had to fill out a form to prove I'm an American citizen or a person legally allowed to work in the US.)

If American Citizens want to revamp the current laws, that's great! There is a process in place to do that, built in, given to all American Citizens.

If you aren't an American Citizen, you have precisely shit all to say about the way Americans handle internal business.

(Just like Americans should have shit all to say about what happens within Iran's borders, or Iraq's borders. We're not citizens of Iran, or Iraq. It's not up to us to make changes in a soverign nation other than our own.)
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