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Old 04-29-2006, 06:18 PM   #5
rkzenrage
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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
As a person whose father immigrated to this country in 1946, and achieved citizenship, and as a person who is the sponsor of a Croatian immigrant, I believe I can speak from experience in immigration matters, both past and present.

There are problems with immigration laws. No one denies that.
Filing immigration forms is expensive. $500 just to start the process.

But that doesn't make it OK for a person to break the laws in place in order to come to the US.

Oh, and those "low paying jobs that no one else will do" will become higher paying jobs when companies can't find illegals to do the work. It's the law of supply and demand, something your Economic soul can relate to, Tee.

One of the counter-arguements that the open-border and other pro-illegal types throw back at us is that the cost of food would sky-rocket if we restricted the numbers of illegals working in agriculture. The lines goes more or less, 'Do you want to pay $10 for a head of lettuce?'

Maybe we do.

This is a study on the costs to the Federal government of the illegals here. Among its findings:

"This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal immigration on the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused on the state and local level and have examined only costs or tax payments, but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that, when all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered, illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level of more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was an amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly $29 billion."

Let's see. $10 Billion plus another $20 Billion or so of capital they export back to their homelands, now we're starting to talk real money.



So El Presidente, who is RABID about other nations even COMMENTING on the way his country is being run, has a problem with how another soveriegn nation is dealing with criminals within it's borders? STFU.

Why don't ALL states adopt that simple law? No citizenship or working VISA = no benefits, no jobs. (actually, I thought that was already a law. whenever I started a new job I always had to fill out a form to prove I'm an American citizen or a person legally allowed to work in the US.)

If American Citizens want to revamp the current laws, that's great! There is a process in place to do that, built in, given to all American Citizens.

If you aren't an American Citizen, you have precisely shit all to say about the way Americans handle internal business.

(Just like Americans should have shit all to say about what happens within Iran's borders, or Iraq's borders. We're not citizens of Iran, or Iraq. It's not up to us to make changes in a soverign nation other than our own.)
I posted that exact fact in a much longer post on another thread. I grew-up in the citrus industry and my family is still in it... we will, in fact, just pay a decent wage for the labor without illegals and Americans will happily pick fruit with that decent wage. True Fact.
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