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Old 10-28-2002, 05:25 PM   #11
jaguar
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It was indeed a dangerous situation; whenever Al-Queda is involved danger is not far. People do react "wildly differently" to chemicals. That's why I don't carry chemical agents for self-defense...responses from such "non-lethal weapons" can range anywhere from "totally ineffective" to "death".
Al Queda? Really? Wow, you must have access to some amazing intel feeds, last I heard the guy was virtually a hired gun with a crazy plan and his dad had links to Al Queda. Freedom fighter first, Islamic Jihadist second, reminds me allot of Ho Chi Minh, be he was an evil commie wasn't he. Man the only person I've seen actually claim he was even strongly linked to AL Queda was Putin and well.....

As for 'chemical weapons', for which I assume you're referring to pepper spray, i think you'll find the fatality or even injury rate is a tad lower than lets say a glock18 or a magnum pistol. You also mangled my first point, obviously the agent, whatever it was was not meant to be lethal in this situation but if it is cold war era chem weaponry I'm sure it was in its original concentrations for battlefield use, it was just quickly, and quite possibly badly adapted for use on everyone from kids to the elderly in an enclosed space.

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Well, *I'd* love to know how you read that conclusion from what I said. You're really eloquent when attacking your own straw men. My point was that "non-lethal weapons" as a class are extremely unreliable, nothing more. Try to avoid putting so many words in my mouth at once, no matter how "entertaining" you find it.
Well you did call it an oxymoron. By which I foolishly assumed you meant, well, an oxymoron. ie: Weapons cannot be non-lethal therefore all weapons are lethal. Or I, assume that non-lethal weapons are not weapons. Take your pick. Or do a better job of articulating your point in the first place.

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Bioagents that eat gas and shit gunpoowder[was that intentional?] (or is it "eat gunpowder and piss gasoline"?)
Is there some kind of prism that badly distorts everything between the screen and your eyes? The last two were either way only illustrations of how board a category non-lethal weaponry is.
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