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Originally Posted by headsplice
So, could I tell you what the plan would actually be? I could give you a general idea: more aid to countries where terrorist groups with domestic political wings are thriving. Co-opt the domestic wing through direct, low-interest loans (since the domestic and foreign policies of these groups are often wildly different, Hamas and Hezbollah are great examples) and you'll tame the wilder, more militant foreign wing by undercutting their base of support.
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Ah...so that would be the "give them enough US money and maybe they'll stop attacking Israel" plan? It's not clear to me that there's any amount of money that the enemies of Israel would take in return for abandoning their principles. Which apparently can be summarized as "Death to The Great Satan and The Little Satan".
But I wasn't asking for a "plan to make things better" (which always somehow seems to involve giving US money away)...I referred specifically to an end state meeting two criteria. Because if there is no such end state, all the rest of this is just political masturbation.
I do think the fact that you'd rather describe
a plan to get somewhere rather than describing
the actual destination is telling. "It's not the destination, it's the journey", of course...and it's no coincidence that every leg of the journey ( you know, the one that used to be called "the peace
process") seem to have toll booths where the players get paid off on a regular basis.
So don't tell me how to get there (and how we haven't gotten there yet because not enough people have been paid off yet). Just describe the destination in a way that might convince me that there is such a place.