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Sundae girl, to me nice refers to the way a man treats other people in general - not just being a leach who is too afraid of living to actually have a life of his own. Shit, I've done a lot of livin, much of it illegal or close to it and a whole lot of it very "stupid" and dangerous. Even I'm amazed that I'm still here alive and in one piece. That doesn't change the fact that I still treat other people with respect. I'm just not an asshole. Thats the distinction that I feel is important. Many women go after the asshole thinking hes cool or tough or whatever. On the other hand some guys that you would call "nice" are just wimps and those are what I think you are referring to (the wimps), not the nice guys. Maybe I'm wrong, but there is a very large distinction between the two.
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