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Originally Posted by Undertoad
tw, who do you support for President in 2008?
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No one. There are insufficient facts to make such decisions. And historically, we rarely know who really leadership material is until a last six months.
Currently on my favorites list is McCain. In the face of extremist and other liars (Christian zionist extremists), McCain has stood his ground. I have little respect for either party. But honesty and other leadership values are extremely important to me.
Notice when my tone towards MaggieL because most acidic. She was lying and she obviously knew she was lying about Israeli warplanes. She was not even honest to herself.
Would I vote for someone like Rumsfeld or Rice? Based upon simplest requirements for leadership - ability to grasp problems, desire to do a job, etc. Then yes. But Rumsfeld is so attached to a political agenda as to not even listen when he is proven wrong - ie Iraq. And Rice somehow supported erroneous political agenda rather than do her job as National Security Advisor. Her tenure at NSA demonstrates lack of integrity - a political agenda and blind loyalty is more important than the purpose of her job.
Two examples of how a presidential candidate loses my support quickly. How two people with potential for great leadership abilities so undermine their own credibility.