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Originally Posted by MaggieL
In fact, since they're not a a nation, it's not possible to declare war on them, as such.
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Which, of course, is total nonsense promoted by a lying president, PA Senator Rick Santorum, and Rush Limbaugh fans. The Constitution does not define war as only limited to nations. In fact Article 1 defines two types of military actions:
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To define and punish Piracies and Felonies commited on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations.
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.
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Where does any of this say anything about war only limited to nations? It does not. So why do extremists lie about this? What is their agenda?
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Originally Posted by MaggieL
To make matters worse, the people in question have declared war on us. (See various fatwas, etc.) This is "asymmetrical warfare" in more ways than one. . These enemies don't *need* to be a nation to wage war, and it is to their advantage not to be.
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But if they have declared war - and MaggieL says they need not be a nation to do that - then America is at war and those prisoners are soldiers. Soldiers that are covered under article three of the Geneva Convention. Remember that article three ratified by the US as stipulated by the Constitution AND that the US is obligated to abide by? That question is for extremists who conveniently change the rules whenever it suits them. MaggieL - others have accused you of also changing the rules when it suits you. So how you you explain torturing soldiers in direct violation of the Geneva Convention?
Article three does not permit secret prisions, torture, and other actions. Actions intentionally performed and advocated by radical extremist George Jr AND approved by MaggieL.
Non-Americans in The Cellar are again cautioned that S3930 is about kidnapping you, torturing you, hiding you from any judicial review or even from the International Red Cross.... and making it legal. S3930 that MaggieL so approves of is about screwing any non-Americans - violating the Universal Declaration for Human Rights - and making that crime legal.
This same MaggieL finally admitted those tortured prisoners always were protected by the Geneva Convention - but will deny it because "Nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition". Why do you think that phrase has been reposted so many years in The Cellar. Did one poster understand all this years ago? Whom?
Torture any foreigner whenever the president demands it. No judicial review (writ of Habeas Corpus), Red Cross, or Geneva Convention protections. Torture of foreign citizens is to become legal in American - and MaggieL approves.
Scarier still - so much silence from non-Americans about what MaggieL and George Jr think of non-citizen rights. You have the right under new American laws to be kidnapped in your own country and to be tortured in secret prisons - and MaggieL approves. Scary? They why so much silence here?