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Originally Posted by Undertoad
They do claim that several plots have been foiled. The administration's message is generally underreported these days as nobody believes them.
It's analogous to Clinton bombing Sudan and everyone assuming it was wag-the-dog. Nobody believed him. Nobody cared. No attention was paid. Being anti Al-Q was not on the public's radar then.
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Wow. That is about as far from the truth as I have ever seen. No one has taken propaganda to this level. Every day, the message of the day is faxed to every Cabinet Secretary, every 'preferred' Republican congressman, Fox News, and hundreds of Rush Limbaugh’s. Why did so many believe Saddam was complicit in 11 September when no one fact said so. Why was Saddam such a threat to America when not one adjacent country - with spies in Iraq - saw zero threats. Why was I the so few when I so accurately denied Saddam's WMD? Because so many even in The Cellar believed the propaganda - just as Hitler defined it in Mien Kampf - just as Radio Moscow would push it on 1960s shortwave.
So many denied Clinton because the spin did not properly frame bin Laden. When it comes to propaganda, the Democrats are incompetents. Democrats, for example, do not have this 'message of the day' agenda. Democrats do not have Rush Limbaughs because Rush is provided a daily treasure of propaganda 'talking point' by the Republican party. Democrats have nothing equivalent.
It did not help that Clinton attacked a factory in Sudan only because labs confused Round Up with a biotoxin. It did not help that the attack on bin Laden in Afghanistan could have created a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India. It did not help that all countries in the region did not yet regard bin Laden as a danger. But again, this is just another reason why a smoking gun is so critically important.
At least Clinton tried - which is far more than we can say about George Jr. However with so much well organized propaganda from a George Jr White House, then still, most Americans do not ask, "When do we go after bin Laden?" Fact: we are doing nothing to get bin Laden. Even the bin Laden task force was disbanded a few months ago. And yet the Republican propaganda is so good and the Democratic propaganda so bad that we never ask, "When do we go after bin Laden?"
The fact that Americans are not asking this question every month only proves how easily Americans are manipulated by propaganda rather than by logic. I am not politically correct. I am blunt honest. Therefore when I ask that same question, some here take offense rather than hear a fact. So many desperately need and believe propaganda as to take offense to my question rather than grasp the patriotic nature of its fact.
George Jr so manipulates propaganda so effectively that we don't blame him for taking a campaign fund raiser to CA as a Category 5 hurricane was bearing down on a Category 3 rated city. We excuse George Jr for doing that fund raiser because his propaganda is so good.
Same propaganda that could get so many to only 'feel' Saddam had WMDs. UT - I grew up watching propaganda manufacturers even to sell soap and toothpaste. Many today still believe the lies about Listerine even generations later. It is the same reason why I so avidly saw through George Jr's lies about WMDs. The Republican party is one of the best promoters of propaganda America has ever seen.