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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
No. I'm not interested in the law, I'm interested in what MaggieL will do. After all, you're the one with the gun, aren't you. Laws can't keep you from shooting me, only people can keep you from shooting me.
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Why wait for other people to protect you from her? You actually have the right to do it yourself. That's the whole point. We have really become European in this sense -- it's like we are completely unable to fend for ourselves. "Someone should do something about this" is a pretty weak-ass replacement for "I am doing something about this."
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Originally Posted by Hippikos
read all of your post, but apparently the red haze in your eyes prevented you to read my post. According your logic everybody needs to own a gun to protect himself or their loved ones.
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Yes, that's pretty much my view. If you are not willing to protect yourself and your loved ones, you must depend on others to do it for you. I'm not that trusting, I guess. The only reason more normal people don't have guns is because of the ridiculous legends and myths that have become associated with them. Eventually, in every argument of this nature, someone brings up Dirty Harry or John Wayne or some other movie figure. Kids grow up watching this and because they have no education, assign these mystical properties to firearms. They're like Michael Jordan's shoes -- if you can just get your hands on one, you'll be all powerful. If someone else has one, you are in dannnnnnnnnnnger automatically. It's just garbage. They're just guns, jeez. In the 50s, you could buy them in the mail, and kids took them to school and left em in the car so they could deer hunt in the afternoons. There were no Columbines then, even though guns were more prevalent. This is a simple fact. Think about it.
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Training. Awareness. Responsibility. There are a bunch of loonatics around who have none of this qualifications.
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Are you arguing for or against self protection here?
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I've been travelling around in the US a lot in the 80's and 90's. People advised me when being stopped by the police to remain in the car, keep my hands on the steering wheel at all time and dont reach for the glove department or anything else, it may cost you your life. This never happen in the many other countries I've driven in.
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People advised you incorrectly. You'll make cops nervous if you start ducking under your seat or acting squirrelly, but unless they know you're a bad guy, i.e., they run your plates and discover something bad about you, you can reach in the glove compartment -- in fact, you'll save time if you have your insurance and registration out by the time the cop gets to your window. Some people love to give foreigners "advice" that makes us sound like we're still playing cowboys and indians.
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Because of all these guns around in the US, there's a particular violent aspect to the American society, proven by statistics, a fact all gunowners prefer to ignore.
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This is simply untrue on all counts. "Because of all these guns around" is not the reason people are violent. This is doubly unprovable by statistics. It's not a fact, which is why gunowners ignore it.