[Radar]

I've worked on both Harry Browne Campaigns, I'm the creator of the Libertarian youth outreach program in California, I've created websites, collected signatures, and run entire campaigns for several candidates in California ranging from state assembly, to city council and mayor. I've helped campaigns of other libertarian candidates in other states and helped pass out information on libertarian initiatives and laws. I am THE california state LP office computer network guy. I've helped arrange protests, political rallies, music festivals, voter registration booths, etc.

I've done as much or more than you have for the Libertarian party and my conviction and dedication are stronger now than ever.

I left because without the constant din of LP activity and LP, yes, propaganda, my mind was free to examine the situation from a new perspective, and I did not like what I saw.

Perhaps you never were much of a LIbertarian if you give up so easily.

I saw that politics was inevitable, that the law was fluid and must always be interpreted.

I see the law as clear and easy and in no need of translation. Congress, the USSC, and the President answer to the constitution, they don't define it.

I noticed that the LP was terrible for the entire liberty movement. I realized that the political conditions were not right for the party.

The LP is the only thing good for the Liberty movement. Everything else is crap. Political conditions couldn't be better for the Libertarian party. The American public is more sick than ever of Republicrats.

figured out that most LPers are very politically naive (albeit very bright philosophically). I learned what it takes to win elections and saw that the LP could not do it by definition.

I'm politically very sharp and have always known what it takes to win elections. It takes money. But the way you get that money is just as important or more important as how much you get. I'd rather lose an election than win it the way that Republicrats do. If we act like the monster, we become the monster.

I realized that consent of the governed is the most important aspect of government and that if the people did not want libertopia then it was wrong to force it on them.

Registering voters and getting people elected is hardly forcing Libertarianism on them. And Libertarians don't believe in utopia or promise it. Libertarians recognize that there can never be a utopia and live in the real world. Most people in America are Libertarians but just don't know it.

Am I a bitter little man? Oh you betcha, but that's a style quibble and I'll be satisfied to be bitter and RIGHT THIS TIME. I'm speaking out of experience

I've been disappointed before and upset when my efforts didn't pan out. But when that happens I step back and look at what I could have done better and then I get back into the fight. I'm sorry that you're a bitter burnout but don't think you've done more for the party than I have and don't think your efforts were wasted because both of those are false. I don't want to get into a look at my libertarian resume discussion with you. Let's just say we've both done a lot for the party.

And for the record, you're NOT RIGHT THIS TIME. Your just burned out and bitter and upset. You sound like you wanted more results. And you sound tainted by Republicrat propaganda. The word "propaganda" suggests lies, and that's what the Republicrats are good at. Libertarians don't lie to get votes. We don't need to. And Libertarians who have been elected actually do what they promise. We walk the walk instead of just talking the talk like Republicans. We take actual steps to reduce the size, cost, and scope of government. Even when we don't win elections, or initiatives we get the message out there that people are sick of the way things are going.

I'm sorry that you've given up on Libertarianism, but don't expect me to stand by while you bash the party or tell outright lies claiming Libertarians candidates are corrupt, or in any way like other politicians.

I'm in it for the long haul. Heck I'm just about he right age to be the first Libertarian president myself. I hope you get over yourself and come back to the only political party that is offering valid and reasonable solutions to Americas many problems and don't continue contributing to them by supporting Republicans or Democrats.