[Radar]

Let's take a look at what the Religion clause actually means instead of what activist groups tell us it means, shall we?

Yes, let’s.

The founding father’s wanted total and complete separation of church and state. They wanted ALL RELIGIONS completely out of government and government out of ALL RELIGIONS! The United States was first among nations to adopt a secular Constitution. The founders who wrote the U.S. Constitution wanted citizens to be free to support the church of their choice, or no religion at all. Our Constitution was very purposefully written to be a godless document, whose only references to religion are exclusionary.

It is vital to buttress the Jeffersonian "wall of separation between church and state" which has served our nation so well.

The president doesn’t have to swear on a bible, nor does anyone who is going to testify in a court of law. All they must do is affirm they are telling the truth. And any mention of the bible, god, or prayers in any official government capacity is a clear and direct violation of the 1st amendment. That includes in oaths, public prayers in government buildings, putting the word “god” on our currency, etc. Chaplains aren’t supposed to be of any particular denomination and many people would like to pray before they are sent to die in an illegal war to defend some other country so I can see a military chaplain. The congressional chaplain is probably so they can pray for forgiveness before they rape the American public, etc. Again if this is non-denominational, done privately, and not funded with public money I have no argument.

Let’s look at what the founding fathers thought about Christianity.


Thomas Jefferson

"I have examined all the known superstitions of the word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."

"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."

"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.


John Adams

"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"

"The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

Thomas Paine

"I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible)."

"Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible)."

"It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."

"The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty."


James Madison

"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."

"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."

George Washington

” The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”

Establishment of Religion refers to forcing one single ruling religion onto the people

Yet another fallacious argument from you. Establishment of religion refers to one or several religions and whether you contend the 10 commandments represents 1 or a thousand religions it still represents religions and thus has no place in government.

Our courts are supposed to decide and interpret LAW

Another fallacious argument. The courts aren’t to “interpret” anything, especially the supreme court. They are to settle disputes among the states and to UPHOLD AND DEFEND the constitution. They don’t define it, and aren’t authorities over it. They answer to the constitution. They routinely make unconstitutional rulings for what they deem to be in “national interest” despite not having this authority. They look for ways around the constitution rather than defending it. And nowhere in their description of powers are they granted permission to “interpret” the constitution. The constitution doesn’t require interpretation. It’s written in simple English, not Swahili. It means what it says; nothing more; nothing less.

The entire constitution and declaration of independence were carefully written to be secular documents that made a clear wall of separation between all things religious (from any religion or from several) and all things government. Only later did religious zealots like the temperance movement put the word “god” on our money despite it not belonging there.

Donating a copy of the 10 commandments to be posted at a courthouse isn’t an exercise of your religious freedom. Nice try mental midget. Praying is an exercise of religion, trying to post your religious doctrine in places of government business is an attempt to force your religion down the throats of other Americans.

Neither the American government, nor the laws of America are based on Judeo-Christian principles, morality, or beliefs. And they never will be.

The founding fathers created America so that Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Diests, and even Atheists would be equal under the law and so they could be free to practice their religion without government interference and that they could have their government free from religious interference. They had seen Quakers burn women at the stake and people being arrested for not believing in the bible in north America and seen even worse injustices and atrocities in Europe due to the mixing of church and state. This is why they created a secular nation where people could have the freedom of religion, but also the freedom from it.