The only countries with a, "magical noble beginning", are in children's books and fairy tales. Making that statement you are accusing me of telling fairy tales. There is no other explanation. You can't understand why I should take offense at that?
When have you been condemned for calling a spade a spade? How were you condemned, somebody didn't agree with you? Somebody told you were wrong? Why are you so sure that spade wasn't a rake?
History is taught from books. Book are written by people. People have prejudices, perspectives and have to be aware of political agendas if they want to sell books to schools.
Why don't your books jib with the history textbooks in Japan, Germany, or the old Soviet Union? If your not sure, no they don't.
That's why I ignored what the textbooks said and looked at facts. Show me where there was a penal colony in what is now the US. I have never heard of one and don't think there was one. Prove me wrong.
Don't tell me I won't accept facts when you don't present any.
Heritage is what it is. There is no reason to be proud or embarrassed by some thing I had no control over and no hand in. Slavery was a bad thing in my opinion, but I'm not embarrassed that it existed. I had nothing to do with it. It's just history to me. I am however, embarrassed by some recent happenings, because it's history I'm a part of. That doesn't mean I'm not proud to be an American or disapprove of everything the country does.
You feel disagreeing with you, questioning your accusations and your interpretation of what are facts, is shouting you down? Do you expect us to just accept statements we feel are wrong? Looking back through the thread, I'll bet money your posts are still there, so they couldn't have been shouted down very far.
The truth is, Americans are smarter than everyone else....heres proof; :p
http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v...tm?size=MEDIUM