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Cloud · 03-15-2007, 12:31 PM

hmm. Not all crime is a hate crime, as has been pointed out. Crimes committed for personal gain, for example, are a big category of non-hate crimes. Motive and mental intention have always been factors in determining the nature, severity, and punishment in criminal law.

a murder without name calling can be less of a crime, yes. Knocking off someone by accident in a convenience-store robbery can be less of a crime than a systematic campaign of bias-motivated violence, for example. Remember that crimes are wrongs against society, not individuals.

Yeah, I agree that the term is over used. Personally, I'd rather see the attitude and acts that lead to the term being used, eliminated, rather than grousing about semantics.

03-15-2007, 12:31 PM	#25
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	hmm. Not all crime is a hate crime, as has been pointed out. Crimes committed for personal gain, for example, are a big category of non-hate crimes. Motive and mental intention have always been factors in determining the nature, severity, and punishment in criminal law. a murder without name calling can be less of a crime, yes. Knocking off someone by accident in a convenience-store robbery can be less of a crime than a systematic campaign of bias-motivated violence, for example. Remember that crimes are wrongs against society, not individuals. Yeah, I agree that the term is over used. Personally, I'd rather see the attitude and acts that lead to the term being used, eliminated, rather than grousing about semantics. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"