The Cellar - View Single Post - Disagree About Iraq? You're Not Just Wrong -- You're Evil

tw · 03-18-2007, 06:23 PM

'Missing documents' is so obviously trivial by comparison that it is clearly only a debating tool to obfuscate the issue. Add Rostenkowski to the mix if we want to confuse all with the trivial. Where was any of this intended to subvert the American political system? Lies to protect drug company profits at the expense of $hundreds of billions? Peanuts compared to what George Jr is doing. Intentional lying and deceit intended to subvert the American political system, to openly create war for a self-serving political agenda, to literally encourage war in the Middle East (and I am not talking only about Iraq), and to intentionally destroy careers of any government body or person that was not working for a wacko extremist political agenda. ‘Missing papers’ is equivalent?

They intentionally perverted intelligence to create a war in Iraq. Where is this even Enron scale corruption? ‘Spying for the USSR for 20 years’ is trivial compared to lying for war. They almost did same to get America into war over a silly China spy plane because a political agenda was more important than the US government. Those same wackos were still living in a Cold War mentality back then. These people have that much contempt for the American system of government. Even uniltaterally break and destroy international agreements for a self serving agenda - no problem because corruption is now routine.

Foolishly, some here to claim ‘missing documents’ are somehow equivalent. Some here need to learn what the word ‘context’ means. Even torture is now routinely advocated. Yes, this government is so corrupt that international kidnapping and torture is not even a crime. Did Putin’s warnings about this American government mean nothing? Do you appreciate the threat of another Cold War only because this government is that corrupt – actually lies to create wars? Oh. That's not corruption. Taking some trivial papers is corruption.

Wow. I cannot believe some here are so brainwash as to associate pork by WV and AK senators with outright subversion of world stability for a self serving agenda. Wow. We just eliminate the word 'context' from the dictionary.

Whereas Halliburton ‘no bid contract’ at any other time would be a major scandal, well Halliburton is not even discussed or prosecuted. Whereas Enron would have probably gone unprosecuted if the state of OK had not filed suite – and that is not corruption at the highest levels of government? What other administration intentionally outs a CIA agent only for a self serving political agenda? What other adminstration intentionally fires civil servants – ie US Attorneys – to use the Attnorney General office to attack non-wacko extremists? What other administration repeatedly quashed investigations that would have exposed a major attack on the US (11 September)? None. None. None.

And what administration would let that attacker go free! No other administration was so corrupt as to not go after a bin Laden. How can anyone talk about corruption and not mention THE classic example of corruption by a President. When are we going after bin Laden? Why did we let bin Laden run free? If they tell you they tried, then they are lying again – like any corrupt government would.

They made zero effort to get bin Laden. A most treasonable crime and it is not mentioned here? bin Laden goes free because George Jr is that corrupt. How do we forget that fact? We talk about 'missing papers'. Context? Not relevant?

Richard Nixon also sent word to Ho Chi Minh to reject Johnson's cease fire so that Nixon could get elected. How silly these 'treasonist' accusations of some missing documents. How silly the crimes of Jim Wright by comparison. These did not intentionally pervert and destroy the US government for a self serving political agenda. What other administration would spy on its citizens in violation of the laws? Another who also tried to subvert the US government for his own personal agenda by doing same - J Edgar Hoover. And yet some here acutally endorse those actions today. Clearly some 'missing papers' is worse.

Lurkers - don't let them confuse you with above trivial and silly examples. It is Cheney's agenda: Enriching friends with government funds is trivial because intentional subversion of the US government is for a political extremist agenda. Those who can’t see that want you to “trip over gum on the sidewalk” – those irrelevant ‘missing documents’. How embarrassingly silly that we would talk about the subversion of the US government – and associate that with some missing papers.

When do we go after bin Laden? Want to talk about corruption? Everything else by comparison is legal, moral, ethical, righteous, ‘done for the glory of god’, etc. Why? Because #1 on the list of treasonable crimes – we made no effort to get bin Laden. And some here so hate America – are so corrupted - as to not even 'feel' that important. Instead of asking "when do we go after bin Laden" ... well there is no higher crime.

03-18-2007, 06:23 PM	#41
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	'Missing documents' is so obviously trivial by comparison that it is clearly only a debating tool to obfuscate the issue. Add Rostenkowski to the mix if we want to confuse all with the trivial. Where was any of this intended to subvert the American political system? Lies to protect drug company profits at the expense of $hundreds of billions? Peanuts compared to what George Jr is doing. Intentional lying and deceit intended to subvert the American political system, to openly create war for a self-serving political agenda, to literally encourage war in the Middle East (and I am not talking only about Iraq), and to intentionally destroy careers of any government body or person that was not working for a wacko extremist political agenda. ‘Missing papers’ is equivalent? They intentionally perverted intelligence to create a war in Iraq. Where is this even Enron scale corruption? ‘Spying for the USSR for 20 years’ is trivial compared to lying for war. They almost did same to get America into war over a silly China spy plane because a political agenda was more important than the US government. Those same wackos were still living in a Cold War mentality back then. These people have that much contempt for the American system of government. Even uniltaterally break and destroy international agreements for a self serving agenda - no problem because corruption is now routine. Foolishly, some here to claim ‘missing documents’ are somehow equivalent. Some here need to learn what the word ‘context’ means. Even torture is now routinely advocated. Yes, this government is so corrupt that international kidnapping and torture is not even a crime. Did Putin’s warnings about this American government mean nothing? Do you appreciate the threat of another Cold War only because this government is that corrupt – actually lies to create wars? Oh. That's not corruption. Taking some trivial papers is corruption. Wow. I cannot believe some here are so brainwash as to associate pork by WV and AK senators with outright subversion of world stability for a self serving agenda. Wow. We just eliminate the word 'context' from the dictionary. Whereas Halliburton ‘no bid contract’ at any other time would be a major scandal, well Halliburton is not even discussed or prosecuted. Whereas Enron would have probably gone unprosecuted if the state of OK had not filed suite – and that is not corruption at the highest levels of government? What other administration intentionally outs a CIA agent only for a self serving political agenda? What other adminstration intentionally fires civil servants – ie US Attorneys – to use the Attnorney General office to attack non-wacko extremists? What other administration repeatedly quashed investigations that would have exposed a major attack on the US (11 September)? None. None. None. And what administration would let that attacker go free! No other administration was so corrupt as to not go after a bin Laden. How can anyone talk about corruption and not mention THE classic example of corruption by a President. When are we going after bin Laden? Why did we let bin Laden run free? If they tell you they tried, then they are lying again – like any corrupt government would. They made zero effort to get bin Laden. A most treasonable crime and it is not mentioned here? bin Laden goes free because George Jr is that corrupt. How do we forget that fact? We talk about 'missing papers'. Context? Not relevant? Richard Nixon also sent word to Ho Chi Minh to reject Johnson's cease fire so that Nixon could get elected. How silly these 'treasonist' accusations of some missing documents. How silly the crimes of Jim Wright by comparison. These did not intentionally pervert and destroy the US government for a self serving political agenda. What other administration would spy on its citizens in violation of the laws? Another who also tried to subvert the US government for his own personal agenda by doing same - J Edgar Hoover. And yet some here acutally endorse those actions today. Clearly some 'missing papers' is worse. Lurkers - don't let them confuse you with above trivial and silly examples. It is Cheney's agenda: Enriching friends with government funds is trivial because intentional subversion of the US government is for a political extremist agenda. Those who can’t see that want you to “trip over gum on the sidewalk” – those irrelevant ‘missing documents’. How embarrassingly silly that we would talk about the subversion of the US government – and associate that with some missing papers. When do we go after bin Laden? Want to talk about corruption? Everything else by comparison is legal, moral, ethical, righteous, ‘done for the glory of god’, etc. Why? Because #1 on the list of treasonable crimes – we made no effort to get bin Laden. And some here so hate America – are so corrupted - as to not even 'feel' that important. Instead of asking "when do we go after bin Laden" ... well there is no higher crime.