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Originally posted by adamzion
3) The government of Ehud Barak offered 95% of the West Bank, virtually all of the Gaza Strip, and half of Jerusalem- the Israeli capital city- to the PA in part of a peace deal. To put this in context, imagine if the US ceded back to the various Native American tribes 95% of the land in the United States, plus 50% of Washington, DC as their capital. Sound good? Remember: we all live in a country which was taken, lock stock and barrel, from indigenous peoples, peoples who had had dominion here for <b>far</b> longer than the Arabs had dominion over Israel.
People in glass houses, etc.,
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Half truths again. You forgot the reason why the deal was not closed. Barak did not want to finalize any details even though the Palestinians were ready to do so - with written proposals in hand at the table! Since previous deals were not ironclad, then Israel extremists gutted them - undermining parts of every deal on technicalities. Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - fool be me. Even Palestinians understand that - which is why Arafat could not agree to incomplete agreements.
Look at all the Arab lands that were confiscated around Jerusalem despite Oslo accords that were suppose to protect those lands. Accords signed by the Israeli government but did not include ironclad details. Look at all the West Bank settlements built only to make a finalized peace agreement impossible and in violation of previous agreements - as The Ecomomist magazine **bluntly** points out (but you forget to mention); and built in direct violation of UN Resolution 242 and the Oslo accords.
Of course Barak had good reason to avoid finalizing the details. Barak needed manuevering room because too many Jews so hate all other people as to not condemn that fuck head Ariel Sharon (see the long, disgusting history of this genocidal maniac in the Current Events section). A finalized deal was politically impossible in a country so full of religious extremist zealot types - a country where honest people will not stand up to religious hate-mongers who dominate the Orthodox ranks and government. I don't hear honest Jews demanding, for example, that rabbis be removed from government. Americans who don't condemn those extremists only help make an honest peace settlement impossible. Even the Israel Supreme court was gutted when it tried to stop genocidal attitudes. Why do you not mention that history? Conveniently forgotten is WHY the deal could not be signed.
In fact, Adam, I did not hear you apologize for your countrymen's love of a genocidal enemy of all people - Ariel Sharon. Sharon - a man who makes honest men of both McCarthy (the anti-communist) and Nixon.
I did not hear you endorse UN Resolution 242. Do you conveniently and repeatedly forget to reputiate 242? IOW, like Ted Koppel, I repeat the question because you do not answer it. Do you condemn Sharon or just 'never' support him? Do you condemn or support UN Resolution 242?