[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The question was, when they gave back the land, why were they attacked on precisely those fronts? The answer is, the people who attacked them saw land give-backs as a sign of Israeli weakness.

These terrorist groups are going to attack Israel no matter how much land they take or give back. They stated that they will not stop until Israel is destroyed so I don't think it has to do with a showing of weakness.

But 10% of Israel's government is Arab. Why would Arabs want to live as a minority in Israel when they can live in Arabic lands?

Many reasons. One, they have no where to go. Two, because they lived there before Israel was created and they still think that they land it theirs. Three, even though they are discriminated against and work very shitty jobs, they still have jobs and can avoid poverty this way. I would be supportive of forcing Jordan and Syria to take back Jews if it ever came to that but I doubt that will happen.

Right, they won wars in which they were attacked to expand the area from which they cannot be attacked. Followup question, is that wrong? How?

It technically isn't wrong. It just shows about their goal to take over their entire dream Israel no matter who lives there now. It isn't a smart international move even though there isn't anything wrong with it since many imperialistic countries have done it in the past.

Actually I don't know that they've been asked. But in 2000 Arafat was basically offered it at Camp David and his answer was to reject it and start the Second Intifada.

This doesn't represent the Palestinian people, but the Palestinian extreme. Yasser Arafat is the leader of PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization), which was created in response to Israel's occupancy in West Bank, Gaza Strip, etc, to destroy the state of Israel. Of course he would deny peace but that doesn't mean the Palestinian people wouldn't.

The Jews were unceremoniously kicked out. They don't want "right of return" and nobody protests for it on their behalf.

If the Jews want to go back to Jordan I will support them 100% but as long as they have Israel they will most likely stay there.

That is incorrect. Correct answer: Arabic peoples would, through sheer demographics, soon outnumber Jewish peoples in Israel, leading to the practical end of the state.

As I said before:

Originally Posted by Piercehawkeye45

If a single-state solution happened then we would have to work to avoid (Jewish expulsion and discrimination) at all costs if it ever presents itself as a problem.

Of course the one-state solution is going to have its initial problems and we will have to work with both the Jews and Palestinians to make sure we don't repeat what has happened to both the Jews and Arabs in the past century .

They gave back Gaza. They gave back the sections of Lebanon they had occupied. Then they were attacked on exactly those fronts. Can you explain?

As I said before (even though this question isn't directed towards me) that Palestinian terrorist groups, founded by Israel's occupancies, will not stop until Israel is destroyed. In order to stop these groups you have to help the Palestinians and get them to stop hating Israel, which doesn't mean Israel's destruction, and make the terrorist groups hated and outcasts within Palestine.