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Originally posted by Uryoces
tw - you have many good points, and I am not disputing them, but it seems that your take on world affairs is that if a few thousand people are raped, tortured, and murdered here and there, it's alright. Some eggs will get broken to ensure peace. Isn't this exactly what you are accusing Senior Abusto pequeno, and indeed the US of doing? Please tell me I have this wrong.
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Then you don't fully understand what I have posted. Its not alright if people are being routinely raped and tortured. But where is all this raping and torturing? Who is doing it? Other than in rhetoric of right wing enemies of Saddam, this raping and torturing is not found. There are such excursions into rebel held territory. But many times, this is one Kurd local cheiftain doing it to members of an enemy clan.
Often one power broker will do it and then blame it on Saddam's Sunnis - for political gain. Easy to do when people similar to George Jr see things only in black and white.
If murder, rape, and torture is so unacceptable, then why is George Jr not declaring war on Zimbabwae and Mugabe? Because the US is not and must not be a world's policemen. Saddam is a problem for Turkey, Saudia Arabia, Iran, Jordan, etc to first solve. Zimbabwae is a problem for SE Africian nations. What goes on, publically documented, under Mugabe's order is more appauling that what Saddam is accused of. If George Jr was thinking logically, then American troops would be massing in Africa.
But George Jr has already said he will unilaterally declare war against Iraq. WMD are but an excuse. George Jr entered office with a vendetta - reality be damned. Those silly aluminum tubes, magnets, etc are being investigated as suspicious minor materials. Curiousities resolved by smart people who solve problems without silly war.
But George Jr and his fans cannot be bothered with such facts. They are aluminum tubes that might be used for processing nuclear material. Therefore they MUST be for nuclear processing. Therefore we must attack Iraq. No doubt. He has aluminum tubes. Therefore we have the smoking gun to justify war!
It is that George Jr rhetoric that Hans Blix explicitly and publically complained about. George Jr was accused of misrepresenting what Hans Blix said - by Hans Blix. Could you ask for a better source? Hans Blix said George Jr misrepresented what Hans Blix said. But then reality is irrelevant to George Jr. Saddam must go only because George Jr has a vendetta - weapons inspectors be damned.
BTW, America did not apologize for the spy plane incident. We 'regretted'. Big difference. There were decent people in US and China doing everything to avoid war. Also were extremists in both countries just iching for war. People such as the President of China used the 'regret' statement so that good people could settle the spy plane nonsense at the expense of 'veins hanging from teeth' extremists in both US and China. We intentionally did not apologize. We agreed to settle the issue - at the expense of extremists in both China and the US who openly advocated military solutions.