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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Hunting preserves for crazies is hardly hyperbole -- especially not when it's happened, and how many times?
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"Hunting preserves for crazies is hardly hyperbole" :shakes head:
Yes, it is hyperbole. Whether you are ignorant of the definition of the word or simply misusing it, your position "The problem with the kind of strict gun control you find on college campuses is that it creates a hunting preserve for any crazy willing to defy the gun control." is wrong.
hy·per·bo·le (hī-pûr'bə-lē) pronunciation
n.
A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.
[Latin hyperbolē, from Greek huperbolē, excess, from huperballein, to exceed : huper, beyond; see hyper– + ballein, to throw.]
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hunt·ing (hŭn'tĭng) pronunciation
n.
1. The activity or sport of pursuing game.
2. The act of conducting a search for something: house hunting.
3. Electronics. The periodic variation in speed of a synchronous motor with respect to the current.
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pre·serve (prĭ-zûrv') pronunciation
v., -served, -serv·ing, -serves.
v.tr.
1. To maintain in safety from injury, peril, or harm; protect.
2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged.
3. To keep or maintain intact: tried to preserve family harmony. See synonyms at defend.
4. To prepare (food) for future use, as by canning or salting.
5. To prevent (organic bodies) from decaying or spoiling.
6. To keep or protect (game or fish) for one's private hunting or fishing.
v.intr.
1. To treat fruit or other foods so as to prevent decay.
2. To maintain a private area stocked with game or fish.
n.
1. Something that acts to preserve; a preservative.
2. Fruit cooked with sugar to protect against decay or fermentation. Often used in the plural.
3. An area maintained for the protection of wildlife or natural resources.
4. Something considered as being the exclusive province of certain persons: Ancient Greek is the preserve of scholars.
[Middle English preserven, from Old French preserver, from Medieval Latin praeservāre, from Late Latin, to observe beforehand : Latin prae-, pre- + Latin servāre, to guard, preserve.]
noun
Public land kept for a special purpose: reservation, reserve. See territory.
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Campuses that don't permit guns are not hunting preserves. For crazies or anyone else. They're schools. You're obviously trying to affect a specific outcome--to permit guns on schoolgrounds; you say as much. Fine. That's your point, ok. But to try to justify it this way is wrong. It's a lie. I don't know or care if your thinking is weak, lazy or poor, the result is the same, it is wrong. I will give you loud, though. And persistent. Your logic is, to be generous, flawed. This because of that. It's just not so. You, personally, may be deluded in this way. But that doesn't make it so. As Sen Patrick Moynihan astutely observed, "You are entitled to your opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own facts."
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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Your manner of thinking, V, will help you die very quickly, helplessly, and hopelessly should you ever be so unfortunate as to be caught up in something like this.
My way of thinking, on the other hand, offers you a hope of survival. That's why I'm the good guy.
And if you're not stupid, why aren't you talking smarter? Stupid's a good way to go to your death, but is it a good life? It's likely to mean a short one.
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You know approximately jack shit about my manner of thinking, and it shows. Do not pretend to know what I think, and do not pretend to speak for me. Your standard U R STOOPID ad hominem attacks show the weakness of your arguments. It's all you've got, and it's pretty weak. As to the quality and length of my life, you know nothing. I do not live in fear, jumping at shadows, even if you do.
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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
What I tell you is still right, for all that you don't want to hear it ever. Your post (#314) is the equivalent of shoving a finger into each ear until the tips meet and chanting "La la la" at the top of your lungs. Pro-gun, pro-self-defense viewpoints apparently reduce you to an extreme degree of childishness, which is both immoral and grotesque.
Don't be immoral and grotesque.
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They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I cannot control what you see or think, nor do I wish to. I am neither immoral nor grotesque, but if that is what you see, perhaps that, too, is in the eye of the beholder. Of all the people I know, only you hold such an opinion, and you are in no position to judge me.
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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
The gun controllers support not peace, though they promise it, nor freedom, though they promise that also. Instead, their actions perversely open the way to extra crime, episodes of genocide, and a free path to oppressive government. It's not even control: it's banning, and it buys mass abuse. Is that smart?
All these things come to pass when the people are stupid, or unduly cowed. That is why I reject gun control and <s>gun controllers</s> gun banners. [I wish this board supported the strikeout BBcode -- and ASCII coding of foreign characters with diacriticals.]
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:sigh:
I will say this: despite your faulty reasoning, the desire to own a gun never grips me more strongly than when I'm reading your posts.