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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
1. That can be a reason but that is not the way I am using it. I have learned that it is pointless to look down on people that disagree or live a different lifestyle than me because it is their choice and they are probably looking down on me as well so we go nowhere but down. Acceptance and understanding is not a virtue of the weak UG (there are obvious exception to that).
2. I don't think you understand why I am an anti-capitalist. It is not that I want to be rebellious or I want to be part of something different, just that I believe the current system has many flaws and we should move on to an improved social-economic system. I do not embrace socialism or Communism because I think the economy should mostly be run by the people even though I will support them because I agree with the social and community aspects of it.
3. I just want to get rid of the capital bullshit. Making money does not make people happy and only causes greed that will take over people. A community based economic system can fix that by helping the community and hopefully bringing it closer together. It is much more efficient to focus on all the needs (I am not talking about basic needs, but all non-superfluous items) of people and not flooding them with unneeded consumerism.
4. Humans have evolved to be very social creatures that are focused around a community. We get our basic morals from society, we are happiest when we are close to others, we are altruistic, and there are many other reasons why humans work best with a community focus.
5. I do not have a specific community based social-economic theory that is ran by the people but frankly, if society would change its focus from individual gain to community gain, I would be more than happy.
6. I think I know what you are talking about but can you explain further. I may be wrong, but I think you are a supporter of small business which I strongly agree with.
7. Capitalism can be seen as a community based system but that is about as realistic as saying Communism is equality.
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I don't know how to use the multi-quote feature. So, I have just numbered your statements for my replies.
1. True - sort of. I think that we must all be understanding of differing view points. However, being accepting of all view points can lead to, to use a technical term, "wishy-washiness." In Germany, too many were accepting of the views of the Nazis which lead to a horrible outcome for Jews and their sypythizers. I know that is an extreme example, but at some point, one must say that another viewpoint is just wrong and that a solid society cannot survive by allowing such opinions to thrive.
2. By reading your statement, I think it is the fact that you want to be part of something different. And, if you will support them because of the social and communal aspects, then, you are supporting socialism and Communism. Both are very flawed and failed economic theories which support the elite and "top brass" more than capitalism.
3. Making money does make people happy. It is not the ONLY thing that makes one happy, but it does help. I have been poor and now I am not. I am most certainly happier. When we didn't have two dimes to rub together, we did have much support from our community. That was wonderful. But, making my own support and paying my own way is much, much better. Now, I am able to help others and that does feel good.
4. No argument here.
5. YOU would be more happy. That is a self-centered view of economy. Not everyone would be more happy in a society driven by some other sort of economic theory. That is not what is best for the community-at-large.
6. I am a fan of small business AND big business. Big businesses were once small businesses which chose to expand. Many times they are not the most community friendly entities; but, there are plenty of small businesses that are not out for the good of the community. It is a mindset, driven by the leadership, which determines whether a community is hurt or helped by the business.
7. I have to disagree. In Capitalism, individuals can determine their income based on effort and ambition (not in all companies - if you are in one of the "bad" ones, get another job). Those who make money, spend money. Small businesses and large businesses need people to spend money. It is very cyclical and beneficial for us to make and spend. Most of the time that money is spend within our own community.
*I am writing this in a hurry as I am late for the company picnic. I may have to edit later.