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Originally Posted by queequeger
These problems could all be solved by deporting every illegal alien and spending more time and money on hunting down the ones we can't find. However, it would be a kinder solution to simply give them citizenship. All the sudden they're no harder or easier to track than you or me.
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Is that fair to the people that play by the rules? Does that teach them to respect the laws or just encourage them to flaunt more laws that are inconvenient for them? Doesn't that just encourage more to come illegally demanding the same treatment? I know the answer, yes it does, but that's what you want. Well I don't, because I'm not leaving the country.
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I speed, I've done illegal drugs, I've sold illegal drugs, I drank underage, etc. Who here hasn't broken laws? I can't imagine it's been very exciting for anyone who's never gone over the speed limit. Why is crossing the border illegally so much more heinous than anything I've done?
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I can see why you don't expect them to respect the law, you don't.
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I don't buy the concept that this is 'only a legal argument' because what I'm trying to get at is the law is stupid. If the law is stupid, it's stupid to punish people for it. Punishment for it's own sake is likewise a stupid concept.
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The law is not stupid. It's a good law, better than most countries have. If the quotas are outdated, then update them to reflect the times, don't just ignore the protections the law provides.
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Regardless, what this all boils down to is that I am entitled to live here because I was born here, and you are NOT entitled to live here because you were born elsewhere. I can't buy it, it's too nasty. So, if you believe entitlement by birth is an OK thing for us to have, then that core belief makes us so different that there's not much common ground to argue from, eh?
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Nasty? More people are immigrating into the US than anywhere else in the world and we're nasty? Give me a break.
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And bruce, I'm sorry I pissed you off.
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Why? What difference does it make to you or me? I holler, don't brood.