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Old 10-05-2007, 08:32 PM   #2
HungLikeJesus
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Originally Posted by Aliantha View Post
Of course lead etc are naturally occuring, however, we don't set out to add them to our food on purpose. That really is not a very good comparison. I could say that magic mushrooms are organic too, but I wouldn't be sitting down to a plate of them for dinner would I?

As far as the production of organic produce goes, the issue is not the base particles of the food that is in question. It is the poisons that are sprayed on the food to keep bugs off. It also encompasses the soil the plants are grown in and the fact that it should be free of pollutants and it covers the water and fertilizer used to encourage growth.

It's fairly simple HLJ. I expected a bit better from you to be honest.

If you dont like organic food, don't eat it. If you think your health is worth considering when you decide whether the purchase organic products or not, then buy the organic produce.

There may be no irrefutable facts either for or against organic produce however, if I have the choice, I'd much prefer the product without pesticides and other pollutants.
Ali, we've gotten a bit off track. My point wasn't to advocate for or against organic produce, my point was that people will decide that something is better without having sufficient data to prove that it's better.

Here is my original post.

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus View Post
If you have an exclusive product, that does not limit its appeal, but makes it rather stand out amongst a sea of otherwise similar competitors.

As an example, people spend a lot of money for organic food because they've been convinced, without any real data, that it's somehow better than non-organic. In reality, the opposite is probably true and they are paying more for an inferior, and potentially dangerous, product.

You've made the statement that "If you think your health is worth considering when you decide whether the purchase organic products or not, then buy the organic produce." But you later say, "There may be no irrefutable facts either for or against organic produce however, if I have the choice, I'd much prefer the product without pesticides and other pollutants."

To me this indicates that you've bought into the exclusivity argument (here using the organic example) while admitting that you don't have any basis for your preference.

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[I wasn't trying to get in to the organic debate, but here's the reasoning for my position: Before any pesticide can be sold in the US, it must go through years of rigorous testing, including tests by EPA and USDA and other government organizations. But chemicals used on organic food do not go through a comparable testing process, and are not necessarily safe. Raw manure is used as fertilizer and copper is used as a fungicide in organic farming. The health effects of copper have not been tested.]
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